The Official Gosh Darned Biden Thread

[vulcanlogician]

What all noncrazy people got from that rant 

To think people like you are voting. They might as well be rigging the machines, because there is no effective difference between letting TV addled lemmings decide political outcomes & simply letting corporate America make up the vote counts.

'Biden bombing Syria? The government surveillance system that far outdoes anything they had even in prisons a hundred years ago? Assange thrown in prison for exposing the crimes of the Bush administration? Crazy talk, I have a ballgame to watch, leave me alone.'

You really are disgusting, you know that? But you will face the consequences. Even though the cultural degradation, corruption, murder and plutocracy doesn't phase you, unless you are terminally ill or very old, you will not escape rising wage inequality, you will not escape the decaying infrastructure, you will not escape paying for wars that have nothing to do with you, you will not escape the rising levels of crime. You may be too much a soulless automaton for even this to bother you, but you will at least loose some of your ill-deserved comfort & security.

Thank you for showing us who you really are, seax.

[Belacqua]

Thank you for showing us who you really are, seax.

I don't like all the "fuck you" rhetoric, but that kind of talk is considered acceptable on this forum. If we take that out, though, so far what he's been saying about politics is true. 

They might as well be rigging the machines, because there is no effective difference between letting TV addled lemmings decide political outcomes & simply letting corporate America make up the vote counts.

There's no question that the propaganda is effective. Fox tells one set of lies and MSNBC tells another set of lies, and a shockingly large number of people believe it. So if we tone down the rhetoric here he's essentially correct. The Princeton study found that the US doesn't have a democracy that's responsive to what people want. It's true that corporations decide.

Biden bombing Syria? The government surveillance system that far outdoes anything they had even in prisons a hundred years ago? Assange thrown in prison for exposing the crimes of the Bush administration? 

This is all true. Biden is continuing the illegal bombing of Syria, surveillance is uncontrolled, Assange is in prison for telling the truth. 

Deregulation which was no only upheld, but advanced by the Democrat Bill Clinton. [...] Then made even worse under the Republican George Bush. [...] Then the Democrat Obama bailed out the banks so they wouldn't have to face any consequences for their reckless lending, even as countless Americans lost their homes. Sure, some of the most reckless banks still haven't regained their market share from 2008, but the bank bosses made off with severance packages bigger than anything the average American could ever dream of.

This is all true.

Then the Republican(?) Trump did almost nothing for four years & the entire world was treated to the hysterical screeching of every news anchor & hysterical childless woman of how evil he was for saying some things, except the one time when he murdered a few people in Syria & we were told that was very 'presidential,' or that one time he murdered a foreign statesman & we were treated to endless, utterly enraging gloating from the American media.

I wouldn't put a question mark after Republican, because I think Trump enacted a pretty normal Republican program. But if we tone down the rhetoric it's true. The media saved their greatest praise for Trump when he attacked Syria. 

Now the Democrat Joe Biden is in office, & you're going to get another four years of favours for bankers, rapidly increasing corporate control of the US government, your tax dollars paying for the murder of women & children on the other side of the world, billions of dollars for Israel to pay for her illegal settlements, growing income inequality, declining infrastructure, cultural degradation and the neverending growth of the security state at the expense of your civil liberties. Or, in more concise terms, the same thing you got under Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama & Donald Trump.

I'm concerned about the phrase "cultural degradation." If this refers to white power or whatever, then it's bad. But if it means the dumbing down and gutting of American cultural life it's true. 

But this time, you're going to cheer for it because the corporate salesman on your TV screen tells you that Biden is a nice man that cares about you and has a heart, plus he wears a blue tie instead of a red one. National direction? Values? Purpose? Meaning? Culture? Justice? Freedom? Beauty?

I agree that Biden is pretty bad, and no different from a normal Republican. 

Again, if "Values" and "National direction" refer to some kind of racial purity or something, then of course I don't agree. But if we're referring to things like "valuing life over profit" or "working to improve the lives of the majority," then I'd agree. 

Maybe it's true that Seax is some kind of white supremacist evil Nazi. But so far what he's said is reasonable.

[vulcanlogician]

Let's invite him to say one way or the other.

[The Grand Nudger]

Assange is in prison because he fled espionage charges...and then...engaged in more espionage. Some people imagine that he's a hero for it, speaking truth to power, as it were. That's probably not what any sober assessment of the facts would suggest, but it's also not really an issue for throwing people in jail. You can be a hero and say true things and break the law. The best way to defend yourself against the charges probably doesn't look like what assange did - but I guess that depends on whether a person sees him as a hero from the outset.

Personally, I'm surprised at how often the very same people who bitch and moan about western decline are also cheering on the people and events which actively seek the same. They imagine that others are assaulting some tradition or culture or system - not realizing that they themselves are that other.

[Seax]

Let's invite him to say one way or the other.

The symbol I use as my avatar is based on an Anglo-Saxon fibula, I made it myself. It's a solar symbol. The colours are taken from the English (& Canadian) flag, while the exact shade is based on madder.

[Silver]

Must be a loose interpretation.

Am I missing the pattern somewhere?

[Seax]

Must be a loose interpretation.

Am I missing the pattern somewhere?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Early...opped).jpg







It was a fairly common design, because all it required was forging a disk & then stamping out four bits.

[Belacqua]

It was a fairly common design, because all it required was forging a disk & then stamping out four bits.

It is a swastika, though.

[Silver]

It is a swastika, though.

I was afraid I was the only one who saw it.

[Seax]

It was a fairly common design, because all it required was forging a disk & then stamping out four bits.

It is a swastika, though.

So? It looks cool.