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RE: The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MEN
February 16, 2021 at 8:03 am
The institutional inequality that occurs in most military services is, in fact, directed against women. Within the military, males have more options for assignments, better opportunities for advancement, and better pay and benefits than women. Women are also more likely to be given harsher punishments for committing the same infractions as their male counterparts.
This isn't unique to military institutions, though. It's typical of any male-dominated hierarchy - the Old Boys Club.
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RE: The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MEN
February 16, 2021 at 8:22 am
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(February 16, 2021 at 6:00 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We could probably write a book on how hilariously wrongheaded the notion that men instigate wars in some way that women don't or wouldn't is. That, John, is problematic.
Every undergraduate psychology student is aware of both the role of culture and the function of statistics. Nothing is black and white; everything is bell curves.
When research suggests males are far more physically aggressive than females, and are responsible for more crimes, you as a reader should already expect mild cultural variance, and at the very least not conclude that women are incapable of aggression or less terrible crimes.
Now read my comment again—which is primarily a critique on the limits of drawing psychological inferences from archeological data, specially when actual experimental research exists (see Ostrov, 2004):
"There's is research on aggression and statistics on violence. We know men and women differ on this front. Whatever limited inferences can be made from spears and skulls is subservient to this data."
Reference: Ostrov, J.M. and Keating, C.F. (2004). Gender differences in preschool aggression during free play and structured interactions: An observational study. Social Development, 13: 255-277
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RE: The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MEN
February 16, 2021 at 8:23 am
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Chewing up boys, spitting out girls. Combat arms is a fraction of service. The same leverage used to exploit males for the labor of killing is applied to that other 90% to narrow the corridors of profit and power pursuant to killing.
(February 15, 2021 at 9:00 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Men seem to romanticize, if not out right instigate, war in ways that women typically do not. I don't think saying society "forces men to fight wars" is the right way to think about it.
No better on the second reading John, just stop.
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RE: The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MEN
February 16, 2021 at 9:00 am
(February 15, 2021 at 11:07 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: (February 15, 2021 at 10:07 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: More women die on the "home front" because more men are taken away from the home front to serve in the army. And?
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RE: The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MEN
February 16, 2021 at 3:28 pm
(February 15, 2021 at 3:19 am)Macoleco Wrote: Armies are for the most part, and specially when it comes to the soldiers on the frontline, made by men.
Men are the ones who go to war, sacrificing their physical and mental well-being.
Society expects men to go fight in a war. It is seen as normal. What would happen if armies were made by women? People would rise and tell “How dare we send women to die!?”
If you notice it, this is never brought up as a gender issue. Men going to war is seen as normal, never questioned, an established expectation. And it’s been this way for all through history, even now.
Still spouting valueless bullshit, I see. Well, I suppose everybody must have a hobby.
And given that your post has colour tags wrapped around each paragraph, I wonder did you steal this screed off another website?
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RE: The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MEN
February 16, 2021 at 9:36 pm
(February 16, 2021 at 3:28 pm)Nomad Wrote: (February 15, 2021 at 3:19 am)Macoleco Wrote: Armies are for the most part, and specially when it comes to the soldiers on the frontline, made by men.
Men are the ones who go to war, sacrificing their physical and mental well-being.
Society expects men to go fight in a war. It is seen as normal. What would happen if armies were made by women? People would rise and tell “How dare we send women to die!?”
If you notice it, this is never brought up as a gender issue. Men going to war is seen as normal, never questioned, an established expectation. And it’s been this way for all through history, even now.
Still spouting valueless bullshit, I see. Well, I suppose everybody must have a hobby.
And given that your post has colour tags wrapped around each paragraph, I wonder did you steal this screed off another website? (my bold)
Reddit. Now, maybe @ Macoleco posted it there and then copied it here, but it's copy pasta, word for word...
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RE: The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MEN
February 16, 2021 at 9:58 pm
(February 16, 2021 at 6:15 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: (February 16, 2021 at 6:00 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We could probably write a book on how hilariously wrongheaded the notion that men instigate wars in some way that women don't or wouldn't is. That, John, is problematic.
If women ruled the world there would be no wars.
Just countries that don't talk to each other.
Tell that to the Falklands.
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RE: The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MEN
February 16, 2021 at 10:26 pm
(February 15, 2021 at 3:19 am)Macoleco Wrote: Armies are for the most part, and specially when it comes to the soldiers on the frontline, made by men.
Men are the ones who go to war, sacrificing their physical and mental well-being.
Society expects men to go fight in a war. It is seen as normal. What would happen if armies were made by women? People would rise and tell “How dare we send women to die!?”
If you notice it, this is never brought up as a gender issue. Men going to war is seen as normal, never questioned, an established expectation. And it’s been this way for all through history, even now. Moderator Notice Read the rules - you don't have to go far. Spamming includes copy/paste of content you have put elsewhere...like Reddit. Don't do it again.
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RE: The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MEN
February 17, 2021 at 10:15 pm
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So much butthurt. Yes I posted on Reddit and here because I wanted to read more opinions about the topic.
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RE: The army is one of the best examples of gender inequality towards MEN
February 17, 2021 at 11:38 pm
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