Official Mass Shooter Thread

[Kitan Etos]

[onlinebiker]

[Jackie]

Update on the California road rage shooting that left a toddler dead, they made two arrests in that case.

[Jackie]

[Kitan Etos]

[Jackie]

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

[Jackie]

I really am sick of "motive" being the focus. That only matters in short term and case by case. While important, it does not address the flooded market and ease of access that allowed this disturbed person to shoot and murder other humans.

Motive is everything. If every American had 500 firearms but no motive to shoot anyone, very few Americans would be shot. Conversely, if every American had one gun, but they all had a motive to shoot other people, lots and lots of people would be shot. The only time people get shot without a motive is accidentally.

Boru

IN WHAT CONTEXT?

Motive only addresses individual cases. 

But, when we are talking about firearm violence, be it suicide, domestic violence, accidental, gang, or mass shooting, the common connection is always ease of access to firearms in a long term context.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Motive is everything. If every American had 500 firearms but no motive to shoot anyone, very few Americans would be shot. Conversely, if every American had one gun, but they all had a motive to shoot other people, lots and lots of people would be shot. The only time people get shot without a motive is accidentally.

Boru

IN WHAT CONTEXT?

Motive only addresses individual cases. 

But, when we are talking about firearm violence, be it suicide, domestic violence, accidental, gang, or mass shooting, the common connection is always ease of access to firearms in a long term context.

Not sure what you mean by ‘In what context’ (and even less sure why you felt the need to shout it at me).

If you remove motive from the equation, the only gun deaths would be accidental ones. Apart from that, motive applies to every single gun death, without exception. This is why motive is so vitally important to the discussion.

Boru

[Jackie]

IN WHAT CONTEXT?

Motive only addresses individual cases. 

But, when we are talking about firearm violence, be it suicide, domestic violence, accidental, gang, or mass shooting, the common connection is always ease of access to firearms in a long term context.

Not sure what you mean by ‘In what context’ (and even less sure why you felt the need to shout it at me).

If you remove motive from the equation, the only gun deaths would be accidental ones. Apart from that, motive applies to every single gun death, without exception. This is why motive is so vitally important to the discussion.

Boru

I cannot simplify it any more.

It does not matter if a firearm death is suicide, or domestic murder, or gang violence, or mentally ill, or workplace grudge. Our epidemic of firearm violence REGARDLESS OF MOTIVE, is because we live in a flooded market, and there is not enough done at time of purchase to prevent these deaths to happen.

Motive is only a short term answer. Prevention starts with the makers and distributors to give a shit about whom they sell to and where their products end up.