Are lockdowns justified?

[FlatAssembler]

[Pat Mustard]

Detailed answer: You're an idiot.

And what have you accomplished in life so important that you have the right to call me an idiot?

I have read your idiotic nonsense. Oh, and publishing papers in journals is not a big deal these days, pretty much any masters candidate has to get at least one published.

[Rev. Rye]

I don't think it would be a serious problem in an anarchy.

And you don’t think some group with a lot of brute force behind it isn’t going to find some way to fill in the void where power used to be?

Also, you crow about how computer scientists can rig simulations to go their way due to left-wing bias, and yet you cite the AIER, a partisan think tank, to prop yours up. At least the think tank I cited (the Baker Institute) is actually nonpartisan.

[FlatAssembler]

I don't think it would be a serious problem in an anarchy.

And you don’t think some group with a lot of brute force behind it isn’t going to find some way to fill in the void where power used to be?

What makes you think a violent revolution establishing a repressive government would be more likely to happen in an anarchy than it is now? If anything, under anarchy, where there is no government preventing people from getting weapons, it is harder to establish a monopoly on violence.

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Also, you crow about how computer scientists can rig simulations to go their way due to left-wing bias, and yet you cite the AIER, a partisan think tank, to prop yours up. At least the think tank I cited (the Baker Institute) is actually nonpartisan.

Who cares if they are partisan or not? They are citing actual studies.

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And what have you accomplished in life so important that you have the right to call me an idiot?

I have read your idiotic nonsense.  Oh, and publishing papers in journals is not a big deal these days, pretty much any masters candidate has to get at least one published.

Do you have some research papers published? If not, do not claim it is easy.

[The Grand Nudger]

Nothing in our constitution prevents a lockdown

In just about every country today, the constitution guarantees the freedom of assembly.

I don't know about other countries..(and I'd be surprised)..but in the us, not a single one of our rights is a suicide pact.  They're all routinely limited in the public interest and there's no constitutional issue with doing so - as an endless mountain of declined and rejected appeals might demonstrate to you if you took the time to research the subject.

That handled....I've been reading this and I want to make absolutely sure that I've got your suggestion right. You think that vitamin d deficiency, and not covid.......killed half a million americans out of the blue? Did our massive processed fortification industry suddenly fail? Was there a milk crisis? Not a single bowl of cereal poured? Did we stop eating eggs? Have americans given up on beef?

Get the fuck outta here with this trash, lol. Half a million americans died because a fascist piece of shit turned public health into a culture war front during a pandemic his administration repeatedly and intentionally misled the public about - a pandemic which his administration was uniquely unqualified to address as a pirate crew of corporate raiders, racists, and crackhead pillow salesmen.

[FlatAssembler]

You think that vitamin d deficiency, and not covid.......killed half a million americans out of the blue?

No, I am saying that many studies show Vitamin D deficiency makes COVID worse. And lockdowns obviously contribute to Vitamin D deficiency.

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The only ways to get enough Vitamin D is by being on the sun or by supplements. You cannot get enough of it from food, except perhaps from some mushrooms (probably not even from them). Lockdowns make people spend less time on the sun. And the vast majority of people don't take Vitamin D supplements.

[Ranjr]

[The Grand Nudger]

-ands that's why the us engages in a massive effort to fortify our foods, unlike so many other third world shitholes. The vast majority of americans are eating and drinking supplemental vitamins. Have been for decades - a remnant of war footing. We've been shut-ins for decades too. Half a million americans did not suddenly die for lack of d. That's fucking insane.

On to the next bit on fantasy.

Americans don't need anarchy to get weapons. We already have them. Lots of them. Yes, anarchy would be the most friendly circumstance to a violent revolution. That's why our government will go to such ridiculous and abusive lengths to prevent even the tiniest whiff of it, and will reflexively cover for it and whitewash it when they fail to do so. In anarchy, the government has failed to establish a monopoly on violence, and so has lost it's practical and ideological authority.

Amusingly, if we insist that the reach of law is the range of a rifle, even in anarchy, the us will be one of the most lawful places on earth - a fact that the faction pushing this bullshit constantly dreams about, but never fully appreciates the ramifications of.

[awty]

It amazes me the lengths people will go to in order to back their personal take on a subject.

Of course, it shouldn't since that what the theists do.

This appears as thought Flat Assembler just plans to try to outtalk everyone with what is essentially the conspiracy theories he thinks are true.

[Kitan Etos]

Vitamin D deficiency? What a lame argument. Plenty of extremely pale people are perfectly healthy.