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Cultural Appropriation and Food
June 4, 2021 at 1:34 am
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Simply does it apply? If so how far?
If it is wrong for me, a mutt of German/Hungarian/Cezch with some Irish, to make any money selling a taco, even if that taco is filled with kielbasa and sourkrught; how is it OK for Mexico to make one of the most popular lager beers when my people invented it? AKA: Plisner Urquell vs Corona?
The drum was invented maybe around 7000 BC by Mesopotamians, should all music be devoid of drums other than that of middle eastern origins?
At what point is it all just absurdist?
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RE: Cultural Appropriation and Food
June 4, 2021 at 2:03 am
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RE: Cultural Appropriation and Food
June 4, 2021 at 2:04 am
(June 4, 2021 at 1:34 am)Goosebump Wrote: Simply does it apply? If so how far?
If it is wrong for me, a mutt of German/Hungarian/Cezch with some Irish, to make any money selling a taco, even if that taco is filled with kielbasa and sourkrught; how is it OK for Mexico to make one of the most popular lager beers when my people invented it? AKA: Plisner Urquell vs Corona?
The drum was invented maybe around 7000 BC by Mesopotamians, should all music be devoid of drums other than that of middle eastern origins?
At what point is it all just absurdist?
I have never understood "cultural appropriation", food or otherwise. Bruce Lee got lots of shit from his part of the world for wanting to teach martial arts to Americans.
I look at life like this, if you have some good shit, no matter the idea, food, fashion or technology, why the fuck would you not want to share it with the world?
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RE: Cultural Appropriation and Food
June 4, 2021 at 2:43 am
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Ok so just a quick google search results in this:
Quote:Cultural appropriation refers to the use of objects or elements of a non-dominant culture in a way that doesn't respect their original meaning, give credit to their source, or reinforces stereotypes or contributes to oppression.
Quote:Cultural appropriation can occur when a dominant culture adopts cultural elements from a historically marginalized population and claims them as its own. Inappropriate or politically incorrect cultural appropriation disregards another population’s history, which can include oppression and persecution by that same dominant culture.
So it seams like it can only apply to one group of people... White Europeans. I haven't heard much about Mexico dominating Hungary in any way, but I'm also pretty sure they disregard whatever happened there when they make beer in a cold fermentation process.
Once again this seems absurdist. I can't sell a meal in a tortilla unless I respect the original meaning of the tortilla (aka: bread), give credit to it's source (aka: the Aztecs), or have anything to do with assigning tortillas to anything negative?!? That's just a piece of a bread and a beer...
This can go anywhere. From the first people to spin and sell silks to modern things like the transistor. Also helped along by a Hungarian. Should I be offended if people don't acknowledge that when they use their phone? Of course not. Can't we let this mostly go?
I'd love to hear the perspective of somebody not super white like myself. Cause frankly, I don't get why it is an issue. My culture or anything created, invented or derived from a white mind or pallet is ok to do whatever with. Why, if equality is the goal, is every other possible denomination of person off limits?
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RE: Cultural Appropriation and Food
June 4, 2021 at 8:47 am
I think its about cultural pride -- you have something that you value that sets you apart from the dominant culture. If they appropriate it (and change it), then you lose that piece of pride.
I don't really understand the whole pride-in-being-a-minority thing. Imperialists go to great lengths to spread their culture. Why wouldn't minorities want to spread theirs?
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RE: Cultural Appropriation and Food
June 4, 2021 at 8:50 am
I suppose I need to pass up all the Tex-Mex food here in Dallas from now on.
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RE: Cultural Appropriation and Food
June 4, 2021 at 10:03 am
The Keep America Beautiful ad featuring Iron Eyes Cody, an Italian American, is an example.
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RE: Cultural Appropriation and Food
June 4, 2021 at 10:04 am
Italian, Indian, they both start with "I", it's close enough.
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RE: Cultural Appropriation and Food
June 4, 2021 at 10:17 am
That's not cultural appropriation, lol, it was just typecasting. He played an indian alot. Cultural appropriation is also not a thing that only white europeans can do...and....no, super whiteness isn't under attack, ffs.
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RE: Cultural Appropriation and Food
June 4, 2021 at 10:19 am
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The Italian part is irony. The suggestion that a native would dress like that and cry about litter by the highway when he's got far worse things to dry about is what I'm talking about.
I didn't like the northerner dressing up as a hick and doing the git 'er done shtick.
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