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RE: They win this time.... (Wisconsin)
March 11, 2011 at 4:18 pm
The government should have no right to prevent any organizations of consenting adults, so long as there is no force, fraud or coercion involved. If 10,000 people want to have a mega group marriage they can do so as far as I'm concerned.
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RE: They win this time.... (Wisconsin)
March 11, 2011 at 4:24 pm
(March 11, 2011 at 4:18 pm)theVOID Wrote: The government should have no right to prevent any organizations of consenting adults, so long as there is no force, fraud or coercion involved. If 10,000 people want to have a mega group marriage they can do so as far as I'm concerned.
Social liberalism at its best!
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RE: They win this time.... (Wisconsin)
March 11, 2011 at 4:27 pm
(March 11, 2011 at 4:13 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: (March 11, 2011 at 4:08 pm)theVOID Wrote: We should remove the power government has to set up these conditions in the first place.
I completely agree. The government has no right to destroy a PB4P organization! Especially since the majority of the population did not want it!
Uh-huh...
Russian history has me disagreeing here. Specifically where communism took over after ousting the parliamentary pseudo-government. There was a horrid civil war over it. A two party system would never have worked under communism (as it appeared in Russia).
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RE: They win this time.... (Wisconsin)
March 11, 2011 at 4:28 pm
(March 11, 2011 at 4:05 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: No one said the majority of Americans are smart... we are sheep like the rest of the world.
I am not old enough to vote but if I was I would only vote for someone with no outside interests with corporations. Lobbying has no place in a successful democracy.
Lobbying has a place in a successful democracy, Bad Lobbylists however can go rot in hell
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RE: They win this time.... (Wisconsin)
March 11, 2011 at 4:29 pm
(March 11, 2011 at 4:18 pm)theVOID Wrote: The government should have no right to prevent any organizations of consenting adults, so long as there is no force, fraud or coercion involved. If 10,000 people want to have a mega group marriage they can do so as far as I'm concerned.
With organization of the masses comes power to the masses. Not a wise decision to allow it in all cases.
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RE: They win this time.... (Wisconsin)
March 11, 2011 at 5:50 pm
By what right do you prevent it?
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RE: They win this time.... (Wisconsin)
March 11, 2011 at 5:59 pm
(March 11, 2011 at 5:50 pm)theVOID Wrote: By what right do you prevent it?
The 'right' to stability?
You know, i really don't believe in 'rights'. It doesn't make a lot of sense to allow organization of the people along lines where they feel empowered or worse: entitled.
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RE: They win this time.... (Wisconsin)
March 11, 2011 at 8:08 pm
(March 11, 2011 at 5:59 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: The 'right' to stability?
You know, i really don't believe in 'rights'. It doesn't make a lot of sense to allow organization of the people along lines where they feel empowered or worse: entitled. That's a duty
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RE: They win this time.... (Wisconsin)
March 11, 2011 at 11:57 pm
(March 11, 2011 at 5:59 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: (March 11, 2011 at 5:50 pm)theVOID Wrote: By what right do you prevent it?
The 'right' to stability?
You know, i really don't believe in 'rights'. It doesn't make a lot of sense to allow organization of the people along lines where they feel empowered or worse: entitled.
Empowering people is fine, we should strive to empower more people, particularly minorities. Entitled, now that's a different story. When people feel they deserve something without earning it, well that's not okay.
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RE: They win this time.... (Wisconsin)
March 12, 2011 at 12:54 am
Ahendant Wrote:That's a duty
Duty, right, wish, whatever.
Ubermensch Wrote:Empowering people is fine, we should strive to empower more people, particularly minorities. Entitled, now that's a different story. When people feel they deserve something without earning it, well that's not okay.
Empowering people is only fine so long as they are all on your side. After that, it is no longer 'fine'.
I agree about entitlement, hence my view on it
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