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[Brian37]

Zebo, I just noticed you liked this post. I may have been too quick to post that. I do have A D D in all seriousness. 

I am not sure now, upon further deeper review if he was the squeaky clean uniter I might have mistakenly made him out to be.

According to a recent article, Japan was divided on the issue of supporting him, or not supporting him.

It may be that that PM, like far to many white Americans still do today when they say, "Why should I have to keep apologizing for what my ancestors did to blacks, and even women and Native Americans".

This former PM is correct in that the citizens of Japan do not have to apologize for what the fascist Empire did back then. I 100% agree with that.
But it is still important, just like slavery in America, to keep that memory in the history books, without honoring it like they were heros or Gods. 

This PM was advocating if I am correct, the dismantling of the separation of the military from the ruling class. That would be, if that really was what he advocated for, would be dangerous because that would lead to the very thing he said he should not have to apologize for in the first place. If you claim you were not responsible for the hyper nationalism back then, then don't be stupid and set the stage for that to happen again. That is why it is important to keep the fascist Empire in the history books. Not because Japanese are inherently evil, but just like any society in the world, as the axiom rightfully goes, "Those who fail to learn from the past, are doomed to repeat it."

That isn't trying to shame anyone, just a warning that if you don't keep the bad stuff humans are capable of in the history books of what not to do to your fellow human, you most certainly have the potential to set the stage for the same thing to happen again.

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Shinzo Abe went further than saying the citizens of Japan had no need to apologize for the systemic, institutionalized sexual enslavement of women. He spent most of his career pushing the false claim that it never happened at all.  

The reason Abe wanted to erase the crimes of the Japan's fascist past is because Abe was a fascist.

Boru

Holy shit! You are indeed correct then. I made very serious error in judgment. FUCK FUCK FUCK! And I seriously am not being sarcastic. FUCK!

Damn here I am railing against fascism then inadvertently made the implication I did.

This is actually more serious to me on a personal level because my x wife is Japanese. SHIT SHIT SHIT!

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

(Bold mine)

Shinzo Abe went further than saying the citizens of Japan had no need to apologize for the systemic, institutionalized sexual enslavement of women. He spent most of his career pushing the false claim that it never happened at all.  

The reason Abe wanted to erase the crimes of the Japan's fascist past is because Abe was a fascist.

Boru

Holy shit! You are indeed correct then. I made very serious error in judgment. FUCK FUCK FUCK! And I seriously am not being sarcastic. FUCK!

Damn here I am railing against fascism then inadvertently made the implication I did.

This is actually more serious to me on a personal level because my x wife is Japanese. SHIT SHIT SHIT!

You didn't make an error in judgement. That would have required you to ascertain what the facts were before spouting off. What you did was to parade your ignorance about Abe.

Boru

[The Architect Of Fate]

So apparently doctors are becoming afraid to treat pregnant patients because they might get nailed by anti-abortion laws 





But..but ...Pro-life .....

[Belacqua]

(Bold mine)

Shinzo Abe went further than saying the citizens of Japan had no need to apologize for the systemic, institutionalized sexual enslavement of women. He spent most of his career pushing the false claim that it never happened at all.  

The reason Abe wanted to erase the crimes of the Japan's fascist past is because Abe was a fascist.

Boru

Holy shit! You are indeed correct then. I made very serious error in judgment. FUCK FUCK FUCK! And I seriously am not being sarcastic. FUCK!

Damn here I am railing against fascism then inadvertently made the implication I did.

This is actually more serious to me on a personal level because my x wife is Japanese. SHIT SHIT SHIT!

It's been intentionally decided to play down Japanese atrocities since the war. Here's a good explainer:

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/07/...arism.html

Shinzo Abe's father and grandfather were at the center of all this, and he was carrying on the family tradition. 

The US made several practical decisions during their occupation of the country. They wanted it rebuilt in a fast and stable way, with a more equal economy. They set up quite a good system in many ways (not ideal, of course). 

However, they made a deal with the devil in hopes of strengthening continuity with the pre-war government and, most importantly, holding off Communist influence. The Japanese Communist party was strong immediately after the war, since Fascists had caused the war, in part by oppressing left wing alternatives. The US decided, however, that they would rather have war criminals like Abe's forebears back in power than risk commies winning elections. This means that many of the same names who militarized and carried out the war (except for a few token scapegoats) ended up in positions of great power.  The legacy of that is why Abe could get and keep power.

Executing Abe's father and grandfather as war criminals might have been a more effective and just solution. The US decided that their experience in running things would keep stability better than bringing in a whole new crop. But this has been US policy everywhere since the war -- right-wing strongmen are always preferable to the danger of left-wing anti-capitalists.

[Huggy Bear]

I'd love to post a video of Huey's rant at the end of the R Kelly episode of The Boondocks, but given that it's, well, The Boondocks, some N-bombs are dropped and I think I might get in trouble if I did that. So, here's a redacted version in text form (bold mine):

What the hell is wrong with you people? Every famous REDACTED that gets arrested is not Nelson Mandela! Yes, the government conspires to put a lot of innocent black men in jail on fallacious charges. But R. Kelly is *not* one of those men! We all *know* the REDACTED can sing, but what happened to standards? What happened to bare minimums? Are you a fan of R. Kelly? You wanna help R. Kelly? Get some counseling for R. Kelly! Introduce him to some older women! Hide his camcorder! But don't pretend that the man is a hero!... And stop the damn dancing! Act like you've got some goddamn sense, people! Damn! I'm through playing around here!

Literally no one said R Kelly is a hero...

[arewethereyet]

I'd love to post a video of Huey's rant at the end of the R Kelly episode of The Boondocks, but given that it's, well, The Boondocks, some N-bombs are dropped and I think I might get in trouble if I did that. So, here's a redacted version in text form (bold mine):

Literally no one said R Kelly is a hero...

So, at least two adults took advantage of a 17 year old.

Not much of a defense there.  R Kelly had already manipulated things to marry a way too young Aaliya.  This wasn't his first rodeo.  It's a pattern of behavior.

[The Architect Of Fate]

None of this makes R Kelly look any better. It just makes some parents look worst 

[Huggy Bear]

Literally no one said R Kelly is a hero...

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So, at least two adults took advantage of a 17 year old.

Not much of a defense there.  R Kelly had already manipulated things to marry a way too young Aaliya.  This wasn't his first rodeo.  It's a pattern of behavior.

So charge R Kelly with statutory rape, how does this rise to the level of racketeering and sex trafficking?

This country has given an 14 year old the electric chair and a 15 year old life in prison... on another note Harvey Milk was sleeping with a 16 year old boy and plenty of members here didn't see anything objectionable with that.

16 is the age of consent where I am. Bit shaky, but I don't find this particularly objectionable on its own, and certainly not enough to label the guy a pedophile

And he looked much older than 16, so that alone defeats the argument for pedophilia.

A statutory rapist under a superfluous law is one thing.  Taking the unreasonable theistic leap of referring to him as a pedophile is something else.

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Sixteen is not a child, you ignoramus.

The strangest part about all of this is that you started off describing Jack as a 16 year old boy, and now are down to a 15 years old who committed suicide. Are you interested in truth, or painting a homosexual rights activist as a predator because you don't like gays?

*emphasis mine*

Some people have more maturity at 16 than they do at 36.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

@Huggy Bear

So charge R Kelly with statutory rape, how does this rise to the level of racketeering and sex trafficking? 

Because Kelly didn’t exploit minors for sex all on his own. He and his ‘inner circle’ (the term used by prosecutors) carried on a coordinated effort to do so, which is the exact definition of racketeering.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/27/nyreg...ering.html

Boru

[The Architect Of Fate]

So charge R Kelly with statutory rape, how does this rise to the level of racketeering and sex trafficking?

Because he was working with a gang to do both those things 

This country has given an 14 year old the electric chair and a 15 year old life in prison... 

Irrelevant 

on another note Harvey Milk was sleeping with a 16 year old boy and plenty of members here didn't see anything objectionable with that.

There is a difference between being in a relationship that runs afoul of statute laws and manipulating underaged girls for the purpose of trafficking. So again your attempt to compare anything else to Harvey Milk fails