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Noteworthy News
#71
RE: Noteworthy News
I forgot what I had for lunch....


Helios - take a deep sniff..... What was lunch?
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#72
RE: Phone Sex Lines to make comeback.
(June 22, 2021 at 7:08 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(June 22, 2021 at 7:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And a few free phone calls are going to make prison not suck?

Boru
You haven' t given me a reason why we should pay for their phone calls.

I have to pay for mine. I don' t pay - phone quits working. Why should a convict get a bonus?

Because incarceration, not prohibitive phone rates, is their punishment. You pay for their food, their clothing, their medical care, and their housing (you also benefit from their legalized slave labour, but that’s another topic). Why SHOULDN’T you pay for their phone calls?

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#73
RE: Noteworthy News
Quote:I forgot what I had for lunch....


Helios - take a deep sniff..... What was lunch?
How would I know? you're the one with your head shoved up there. So you tell me.  Hehe

Now have about an actual argument?

(June 22, 2021 at 7:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 22, 2021 at 7:08 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: You haven' t given me a reason why we should pay for their phone calls.

I have to pay for mine. I don' t pay - phone quits working. Why should a convict get a bonus?

Because incarceration, not prohibitive phone rates, is their punishment. You pay for their food, their clothing, their medical care, and their housing (you also benefit from their legalized slave labour, but that’s another topic). Why SHOULDN’T you pay for their phone calls?

Boru
We have already taken their freedom that's punishment enough
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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#74
RE: Noteworthy News
(June 22, 2021 at 7:13 pm)Helios Wrote:
Quote:I forgot what I had for lunch....


Helios - take a deep sniff..... What was lunch?
How would I know? you're the one with your head shoved up there. So you tell me.  Hehe

Now have about an actual argument?

(June 22, 2021 at 7:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Because incarceration, not prohibitive phone rates, is their punishment. You pay for their food, their clothing, their medical care, and their housing (you also benefit from their legalized slave labour, but that’s another topic). Why SHOULDN’T you pay for their phone calls?

Boru
We have already taken their freedom that's punishment enough

My point exactly.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#75
RE: Phone Sex Lines to make comeback.
(June 22, 2021 at 7:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 22, 2021 at 7:08 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: You haven' t given me a reason why we should pay for their phone calls.

I have to pay for mine. I don' t pay - phone quits working. Why should a convict get a bonus?

Because incarceration, not prohibitive phone rates, is their punishment. You pay for their food, their clothing, their medical care, and their housing (you also benefit from their legalized slave labour, but that’s another topic). Why SHOULDN’T you pay for their phone calls?

Boru
Because we already pay for their food, clothing, medical care and housing......

You think we should pay for their beer, liquor and Cuban cigars too?

Maybe a Caribbean or South of France vacation as well...... Doing time is hard work!

They DESERVE it - right?
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#76
RE: Phone Sex Lines to make comeback.
(June 22, 2021 at 7:18 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(June 22, 2021 at 7:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Because incarceration, not prohibitive phone rates, is their punishment. You pay for their food, their clothing, their medical care, and their housing (you also benefit from their legalized slave labour, but that’s another topic). Why SHOULDN’T you pay for their phone calls?

Boru
Because we already pay for their food, clothing, medical care and housing......

You think we should pay for their beer, liquor and Cuban cigars too?

Maybe a Caribbean or South of France vacation as well...... Doing time is hard work!

They DESERVE it - right?

Nice attempt at deflection. Didn’t work.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#77
RE: Noteworthy News
Quote:Because we already pay for their food, clothing, medical care and housing......
That's not an argument. Because we pay for one set of things. That doesn't mean we shouldn't also pay for another thing.


Quote:You think we should pay for their beer, liquor and Cuban cigars too?
That's clearly fallacious because just because we pay for one thing doesn't mean we have to for anything. Letting them use the phone for free is a pretty freaking modest. 


Quote:Maybe a Caribbean or South of France vacation as well...... Doing time is hard work!
Same fallacy as above 


Quote:They DESERVE it - right?
Letting them use the phone for free is not a matter of deserving. It's a matter of civility and common decency.

(June 22, 2021 at 7:17 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 22, 2021 at 7:13 pm)Helios Wrote: How would I know? you're the one with your head shoved up there. So you tell me.  Hehe

Now have about an actual argument?

We have already taken their freedom that's punishment enough

My point exactly.

Boru
And it's an excellent point  Great

We lose nothing by letting talk to the outside world.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#78
RE: Noteworthy News
I realize that we've had cell phones for awhile now, but what the hell ever happened to hand-written letters? That was good enough for centuries, if one was lucky enough to get the necessary materials for letters. Cellphones are an unnecessary frippery, in my book. Spoiled fucking prisoners get more than a lot of poor people do!
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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#79
RE: Noteworthy News
Phone calls from prisoners often cost the person getting the call a lot of money. Some of those on the outside are afraid not to take the call. It's not just about a prisoner getting 'frills'. A phone call has another person on the other end...and that's who typically ends up paying, one way or another.
What fresh hell can this be? - Dorothy Parker
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#80
RE: Noteworthy News
Quote:Spoiled fucking prisoners get more than a lot of poor people do!
Last I checked poor people are still free. Prisoners are not.  Dodgy
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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