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The 500 & Common Sense.
#21
RE: The 500 & Common Sense.
(June 23, 2021 at 2:35 pm)Drich Wrote:
(June 23, 2021 at 1:43 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I would like to hear more about your one-on-one time with God.

it's called prayer. once you learn to properly pray, you will find God answers all prayer. but again first you have to understand what prayer is.
Umm...

(June 23, 2021 at 1:33 pm)Drich Wrote: that's the thing sport. if you studied the religion, they can't claim personal experience with God, unless they claim to be an equal of mo-ham-Ed. as their version of God only speaks through prophets. in fact no other religion, not even roman Catholicism, offers one on one time with God.

So, Islam and Catholicism don't offer prayer? Are Muslims all just OCD about needing to flatten rugs in a specific direction five times a day and the infidels just decided it was actually prayer?
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#22
RE: The 500 & Common Sense.
(June 23, 2021 at 3:25 pm)Drich Wrote: if life was indeed a form of SIM theory like were are all just apart of a holodeck/matrix recreation of reality (A brain in a vat being fed electrical inputs to make it think it is part of a broader world, or a body tied into a matrix of sorts, or simple AI's who have to die in this world to wake up in reality.. (which is kinda what the bible describes creation is/God to be)

If this is the case then what does it matter if our avatars exposed to in game suffering? ever play a video game? ever trivially kill a sprite/guy just to see what would happen? meaning if we are plugged into the matrix or if we are brains in vats or more biblically correct spiritual beings coexisting in a physical body what does it matter if the avatar is exposed to the dangers of the game so long as the gamer/spirit can not be hurt?

why would God devote a huge amount of energy preserving and protecting what amounts to a digital form designed to live but a few brief moments and then die?

God is concerned about the long Game the Spiritual being (the player in the real world/not mario on the screen) and it's place in the rest of eternity/real world not this sim. meaning if it means mario has to die by having the power turned off early or the game level become so increasing difficult, that the gamer gives up on the game/sim so that in real life he gets up and goes outside to play.. then it is not good that mario (in game had a hard/difficult life?)


So why should god care about, what you as a sim cares about, to the degree you care about it, if his goal is to get you take your turn to play the game and then move on to the rest of your life???

 when in a few moments you will wake up from this simulation and nothing that mattered to you in the sim will matter in the real/heaven world.

You are suggesting that God doesn't care one bit about people or their problems -- the Earth is just a place He plants souls in the hope that they ripen and can be harvested for eternity.

This "life doesn't matter, only heaven matters" idea is one I vehemently disagree with.  I am actually angry about it.  It can justify any and all evil, and robs life of its beauty.
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RE: The 500 & Common Sense.
(June 23, 2021 at 8:26 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: You are suggesting that God doesn't care one bit about people or their problems -- the Earth is just a place He plants souls in the hope that they ripen and can be harvested for eternity.

This "life doesn't matter, only heaven matters" idea is one I vehemently disagree with.  I am actually angry about it.  It can justify any and all evil, and robs life of its beauty.

Yeah, funny thing: I'm currently watching Leah Remini's docuseries on Scientology, and one of the big running themes throughout the series is how dangerous such an idea can be. The Co$' big goal is "Clearing the Planet." Literally every human rights abuse committed under their auspices can be (and frequently is) justifying it by saying that [Insert important things from getting a proper college education to taking care of your damn kids here] doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is saving the world. And if the COB decides locking up most of the executives in the Church in an ant-infested double wide and making them play musical chairs for the chance to not go to an even worse place will help Clear the Planet, you'd be an SP to not agree with him. And if Mike and Leah are talking to someone raised in Scientology, it's practically guaranteed that this point is going to come up.
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#24
RE: The 500 & Common Sense.
It may not rob life of it's beauty so much as it appeals to those who already see no beauty in life. That being the thing they sought out the advice of a shaman to acquire, after all.

As far as I'm aware, cults like scientology (or our buddy drich's)tend to prey on the polar opposite of happy well adjusted people with a bunch of friends and alot of things to live for. I mean, case in point, whenever we hear some sob story about how downtrodden and busted a believer was till they found god™ - they're just telling us that they were (perhaps still are) moments from flinging themselves off a bridge somewhere.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The 500 & Common Sense.
(June 23, 2021 at 9:46 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: As far as I'm aware, cults like scientology (or our buddy drich's)tend to prey on the polar opposite of happy well adjusted people with a bunch of friends and alot of things to live for. I mean, case in point, whenever we hear some sob story about how downtrodden and busted a believer was till they found god™ - they're just telling us that they were (perhaps still are) moments from flinging themselves off a bridge somewhere.

Of course, the Co$ doesn't so much as save people from flinging themselves off of bridges as make them take a personality test and tell them they're about to do so, even if they actually are the most well-adjusted people on the planet.
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#26
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All religions do that. Tell them they're soul is at peril and that your belief system alone has the cure.
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#27
RE: The 500 & Common Sense.
A persons amenability to the messaging might be a comment on their internal state of affairs, however they may appear to others to be. Self help schemes by any name aren't full of satisfied people. They may even be well adjusted, I suppose, insomuch as we see them - but not believe it themselves. Our friend advocating for the god of the lowly human worms is unlikely to get his idea of lowly human worms from religion so much as he's molded his religion to accord with how he sees reality, and specifically human reality.

The snake oil pitch isn't a thing all religions do. It's it's own thing, optional.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#28
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The irony in thinking that self-help has to come from someone else's ideology.
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#29
RE: The 500 & Common Sense.
I suppose that if you feel unworthy and/or ignorant and/or incompetent, you'd be less inclined to the self part and more looking for the help.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#30
RE: The 500 & Common Sense.
(June 23, 2021 at 10:35 pm)Foxaire Wrote: All religions do that. Tell them they're soul is at peril and that your belief system alone has the cure.

Do they all create a personality test that's rigged to say that the mark in question is suicidal, regardless of what they actually scored?
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