Global warming: Are we doomed? A poll.

[The Architect Of Fate]

 I couldn't find the butt-smooch emoji, which would be much more appropriate for where you put your face every time OLB makes a post. fuxxake

Nah to be accurate you would need to find the head up his own ass emoji that would be more appropriate for anything regarding OLB. Or better still apply the butt-smooch emoji  to yourself when you white knight for him 

[Fake Messiah]

Maybe people need a global plan.

Like for starters, place lots of those machines that suck carbon from the air in places where there is lots of solar energy, like the Sahara. Store that carbon (dioxide) underground, and also fuse some of that carbon with hydrogen and produce fuel for all the cars and planes in enough quantity so we don't have to pump more oil from the ground, but just circle the carbon.

Then something must be done about that plastic and electronic garbage. Maybe build big gasification plants to burn all the plastics with very hot lasers in places with lots of solar energy like deserts.

And when it comes to producing electricity, wind and solar are now cheaper options than gas and coal.

And that's it. The solution doesn't seem so hard to implement.

[onlinebiker]

Maybe people need a global plan.

Like for starters, place lots of those machines that suck carbon from the air in places where there is lots of solar energy, like the Sahara. Store that carbon (dioxide) underground, and also fuse some of that carbon with hydrogen and produce fuel for all the cars and planes in enough quantity so we don't have to pump more oil from the ground, but just circle the carbon.

Then something must be done about that plastic and electronic garbage. Maybe build big gasification plants to burn all the plastics with very hot lasers in places with lots of solar energy like deserts.

And when it comes to producing electricity, wind and solar are now cheaper options than gas and coal.

And that's it. The solution doesn't seem so hard to implement.

Uh.

No.

You can keep telling yourself that - but it' s just not true.


You know what makes solar power cheap?

Taxpayers.

Want to see the true cost of power?

Disconnect commercial power from your abode.

Go buy the solar panels or windmill. Buy the batteries to get you through the night. And don't skimp on reserve - or during a cloudy spell you might be without power. (Don' t forget you will be replacing those pricey batteries every 5 years or so)Go buy an inverter to turn it into usable household current. (Wait till you see what a 220v single phase inverter costs).

10,000 watts worth. Bare minimum. If you want to heat with " cheap" solar electric you will need double that. Same for air conditioning. 

If it was cheap - half of you would already be doing this.


Tell the truth now - how many of you have cut the cord with the electric company?


Nobody?


Gee..


Big surprise.

[The Valkyrie]

Yes.

You're all doomed.

But not because of global warming...

😇😇😇

[The Architect Of Fate]

Uh.

No.

You can keep telling yourself that - but it' s just not true.


You know what makes solar power cheap?

Taxpayers.

Want to see the true cost of power?

Disconnect commercial power from your abode.

Go buy the solar panels or windmill. Buy the batteries to get you through the night. And don't skimp on reserve - or during a cloudy spell you might be without power. (Don' t forget you will be replacing those pricey batteries every 5 years or so)Go buy an inverter to turn it into usable household current. (Wait till you see what a 220v single phase inverter costs).

10,000 watts worth. Bare minimum. If you want to heat with " cheap" solar electric you will need double that. Same for air conditioning. 

If it was cheap - half of you would already be doing this.


Tell the truth now - how many of you have cut the cord with the electric company?


Nobody?


Gee..


Big surprise.

You can keep convincing yourself you understand renewable energy and pushing outdated population control pseudoscience. But neither is true.

Even without subsidies, solar power is cheaper than any other option.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesellsmo...d0ae8bf5a6

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/...-subsidies

https://kubyenergy.ca/blog/busted-solar-...u're%20in.

Oh and again population control won't solve climate change

https://www.srhr-ask-us.org/publication/...l-warming/

https://futurism.com/the-byte/population...ate-change

https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2018/11/14...snt-answer

[Anomalocaris]

By most models, we are or will soon pass the point at which we can't contain global warming and it will become a largely runaway process.

If that happens, it could make the majority of the earth hostile to humans in a relatively short timespan.

Do you think this will happen within 100 years?  Yes or no.

Define “hostile to humans”

I have not seen any climate models that project substantial parts of inhabited earth will become less hospitable to human habitation in 100 years than ANY part of the earth which currently supports significant human population. 

At worst, the total carrying capacity of the earth may decline to below the worst of what we project human population to be in 100 years.   But that doesn’t make any particular part of the earth hostile to human habitation.

[The Grand Nudger]

Yeah - that' s fine until it isn' t.


If you think food shortages are not a very real possibility - you' re likely to be one of the first to starve....

Aesop' s Grasshopper and Ant come to mind....

I always wonder which a person imagines themselves to be. We already have food shortages, climate change doesn’t cause them. We do that. Still, like your concern for deer, food “running out” is no concern of mine.

[vulcanlogician]

By most models, we are or will soon pass the point at which we can't contain global warming and it will become a largely runaway process.

If that happens, it could make the majority of the earth hostile to humans in a relatively short timespan.

Do you think this will happen within 100 years?  Yes or no.

Define “hostile to humans”

I have not seen any climate models that project substantial parts of inhabited earth will become less hospitable to human habitation in 100 years than ANY part of the earth which currently supports significant human population. 

At worst, the total carrying capacity of the earth may decline to below the worst of what we project human population to be in 100 years.   But that doesn’t make any particular part of the earth hostile to human habitation.

It might be more accurate to say most of the places humans live now will become inhospitable. Considering that populations are more dense along coastlines.

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[Pat Mustard]

Maybe people need a global plan.

Like for starters, place lots of those machines that suck carbon from the air in places where there is lots of solar energy, like the Sahara. Store that carbon (dioxide) underground, and also fuse some of that carbon with hydrogen and produce fuel for all the cars and planes in enough quantity so we don't have to pump more oil from the ground, but just circle the carbon.

Then something must be done about that plastic and electronic garbage. Maybe build big gasification plants to burn all the plastics with very hot lasers in places with lots of solar energy like deserts.

And when it comes to producing electricity, wind and solar are now cheaper options than gas and coal.

And that's it. The solution doesn't seem so hard to implement.

Carbon capture and storage is pretty much a pipe dream, except for planting loads of trees, letting them grow 20 years, chopping them down, burying them and then replanting new ones. In the long term that will work but not in the tmescale we have.

[onlinebiker]

Are you serious?

Let them grow 20 years?

That' s a sapling. 2 maybe 3 inch in diameter.....


Sheeshh....


City kids.


They don' t know nuthin'....