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[Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
#81
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 30, 2021 at 6:58 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 30, 2021 at 6:42 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Three year old cause.  What have you accomplished?

Not much from what I can see.  At least nothing positive.

If I changed the view of a "mere single individual" from "negative viewing of Islam & Muslims:" to "positive viewing", then that's a victory to me and the religion I believe in.

The Quran does not orders people to murder and pelauge, it doesn't orders people to sexualize women, it doesn't order people to do the terrible nonsense Sunnies and Shiites do. I read the book once and twice and thrice, but I found that the people who have Nuclear Weapons are non-Muslims, I found that the common denominator in all religious evil is abandoning the source book and listening to "Imams and Priests and Institutions" instead".

Just 1 person. That's enough for me. Changing their view is enough.
If none changed, at least I have myself.

So you are here to hear yourself talk. Got it.
  
“If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius
                                      
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#82
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 30, 2021 at 7:21 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(July 30, 2021 at 6:58 pm)WinterHold Wrote: If I changed the view of a "mere single individual" from "negative viewing of Islam & Muslims:" to "positive viewing", then that's a victory to me and the religion I believe in.

The Quran does not orders people to murder and pelauge, it doesn't orders people to sexualize women, it doesn't order people to do the terrible nonsense Sunnies and Shiites do. I read the book once and twice and thrice, but I found that the people who have Nuclear Weapons are non-Muslims, I found that the common denominator in all religious evil is abandoning the source book and listening to "Imams and Priests and Institutions" instead".

Just 1 person. That's enough for me. Changing their view is enough.
If none changed, at least I have myself.

So you are here to hear yourself talk.  Got it.

Not really. I met some very nice people, jewels to be honest. I did learn that even in this harsh world flowers can grow.
But then again, I know what life is, nobody knows what tomorrow holds.
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#83
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
Magic book orders all of that fucked up shit, Winter, no muslim has to resort to hadith to get a fix of the terribad. You've had this exact discussion on these boards with these people before.

.....It's like we're on repeat of late.
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#84
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 30, 2021 at 8:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Magic book orders all of that fucked up shit, Winter, no muslim has to resort to hadith to get a fix of the terribad.  You've had this exact discussion on these boards with these people before.

.....It's like we're on repeat of late.

You know; nobody has the right to "seize" the Quran for themselves; saying that "only their party/their institution" has the right to speak in its name. It's a free for all to discuss the verses of the Quran.

This idea is not yet realized, even though it's stated explicitly in the Quran itself:


Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 256 )   There shall be no compulsion in the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

I've been repeating this verse for years though; but Shiite socks and Sunni socks, Christians socks and Atheist socks have been pouring like insane to sabotage any attempt by me to say this verse loud and clear.

I will keep repeating this until it becomes a norm.
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#85
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
I'm freely discussing that if you got rid of hadith to get rid of the terribad, you only finished half the job.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#86
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 30, 2021 at 9:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 30, 2021 at 8:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Magic book orders all of that fucked up shit, Winter, no muslim has to resort to hadith to get a fix of the terribad.  You've had this exact discussion on these boards with these people before.

.....It's like we're on repeat of late.

You know; nobody has the right to "seize" the Quran for themselves; saying that "only their party/their institution" has the right to speak in its name. It's a free for all to discuss the verses of the Quran.

This idea is not yet realized, even though it's stated explicitly in the Quran itself:


Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 256 )   There shall be no compulsion in the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

I've been repeating this verse for years though; but Shiite socks and Sunni socks, Christians socks and Atheist socks have been pouring like insane to sabotage any attempt by me to say this verse loud and clear.

I will keep repeating this until it becomes a norm.

Bold mine -

So you plan to keep spamming the forum? Good to know.
  
“If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius
                                      
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#87
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 30, 2021 at 10:32 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm freely discussing that if you got rid of hadith to get rid of the terribad, you only finished half the job.

Other geographic places got rid of religion yet to invent new "doctrines" which are very racist, deadly and tyrannical in nature.
Take Asia's "Mao", or the European imperialist white nationalists. 

Your point, again.? your problem is the vampire called "mankind", money, brains, etcetera.
My religion told me that mankind is under constant "agitation" by an extraterrestrial being made out of fire called "Satan". Just like wild beasts a large group listens to the agitation and wrecks havoc on the face of this planet.

So it's a never ending battle against this being and whoever listens to him, until judgement day comes -according to my faith of course-.

(July 30, 2021 at 10:47 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(July 30, 2021 at 9:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote: You know; nobody has the right to "seize" the Quran for themselves; saying that "only their party/their institution" has the right to speak in its name. It's a free for all to discuss the verses of the Quran.

This idea is not yet realized, even though it's stated explicitly in the Quran itself:



I've been repeating this verse for years though; but Shiite socks and Sunni socks, Christians socks and Atheist socks have been pouring like insane to sabotage any attempt by me to say this verse loud and clear.

I will keep repeating this until it becomes a norm.

Bold mine -

So you plan to keep spamming the forum?  Good to know.

But I also bring new stuff to the table, I mention them in my "[Quranic Reflection]" topics. I read the book and try my best to see how it fairs with science: guess what: it fairs perfectly.
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#88
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 31, 2021 at 2:18 am)WinterHold Wrote: I read the book and try my best to see how it fairs with science: guess what: it fairs perfectly.

And yet Muslims because of Islam and Quran see science as Satanic.





So if Quran faired with science it would fair with Satan.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#89
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 31, 2021 at 2:18 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 30, 2021 at 10:32 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'm freely discussing that if you got rid of hadith to get rid of the terribad, you only finished half the job.

Other geographic places got rid of religion yet to invent new "doctrines" which are very racist, deadly and tyrannical in nature.
Take Asia's "Mao", or the European imperialist white nationalists. 

Your point, again.? your problem is the vampire called "mankind", money, brains, etcetera.
My religion told me that mankind is under constant "agitation" by an extraterrestrial being made out of fire called "Satan". Just like wild beasts a large group listens to the agitation and wrecks havoc on the face of this planet.

So it's a never ending battle against this being and whoever listens to him, until judgement day comes -according to my faith of course-.

(July 30, 2021 at 10:47 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Bold mine -

So you plan to keep spamming the forum?  Good to know.

But I also bring new stuff to the table, I mention them in my "[Quranic Reflection]" topics. I read the book and try my best to see how it fairs with science: guess what: it fairs perfectly.

So the answer to my question is "Yes".

You plan to continue spamming the forum.

Read the rules...there isn't a loophole that says you can spam the forum so long as you bring new stuff to the table.
  
“If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius
                                      
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#90
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 30, 2021 at 9:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I've been repeating this verse for years though; but Shiite socks and Sunni socks, Christians socks and Atheist socks have been pouring like insane to sabotage any attempt by me to say this verse loud and clear.

I will keep repeating this until it becomes a norm.
There is a more simple explanation for everybody thinking you are an idot, other than everybody being a "sock". Guess what that explanation is?! Wacky
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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