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Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience.
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So people who do not behave "normal" and have different beliefs than you, Jehanne, might just have a pathological medical condition. Does that sound familiar to you?
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Since Abraham and Moses probably never existed in RL, I'ma give 'em a pass on having TLE. Joseph Smith was a con man, he knew exactly what he was selling. Interesting but speculative. It seems clear that MOST people who currently report religious experiences do not have TLE unless it's way more common than I thought, but an alternate brain state similar to what meditation produces does seem to be involved when they try to study it in a lab.
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 (September 1, 2021 at 9:44 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: So people who do not behave "normal" and have different beliefs than you, Jehanne, might just have a pathological medical condition. Does that sound familiar to you? Many religious experiences (visions, OBEs, NDEs, etc.) can be generated artificially, on demand, and under controlled conditions; others are due to neurological disorders, such as TLE. RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience.
September 1, 2021 at 9:58 am
(This post was last modified: September 1, 2021 at 9:58 am by Mister Agenda.)
Which doesn't automatically make them ungenuine, if God were real and touching people's brains, it seems plausible that it would cause an altered brain state.
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If these experiences people report are real, then they must be the product of some uncommon something between themselves and the people who never report having even one. In a god touched world or a godless world - something is making people report this stuff.
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(September 1, 2021 at 9:58 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Which doesn't automatically make them ungenuine, if God were real and touching people's brains, it seems plausible that it would cause an altered brain state. Your multiplying explanations beyond that which is necessary. I could just as well appeal to the ISM, and to his/her/its grace when my lost bootee is found.  (September 1, 2021 at 9:58 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Which doesn't automatically make them ungenuine, if God were real and touching people's brains, it seems plausible that it would cause an altered brain state. Except that Occam's razor rules out superfluous causes. If God isn't needed in non-religious epileptic fits, he isn't needed in religious ones. ![[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg?rlkey=x1nmxbwrp...pouidnfvtl]](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/a6a72vica8gsyddmkhtxp/extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg?rlkey=x1nmxbwrpk9dzrupouidnfvtl) RE: Temporal lobe epilepsy & religious experience.
September 1, 2021 at 10:43 am
(This post was last modified: September 1, 2021 at 10:43 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Interestingly enough, the extraneous god would be in the same category as the tech in the lab - both sets of experiences being equally artificial.
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