An infinite progress

[Spongebob]

The only difference between your view of the universe and mine is that mine contains precisely one less magic man who died on the cross and rose from the dead to pay for all the times we shook our peckers too hard after we took a piss.  

Interesting. Mine contains one less unexplainable, unknowable, uninvestigatable, uncaused, event in the past.

Your point?

How is that possible?  An omnipotent god is an uncaused event.  That's not one less, that's one.  Same thing.

[Ahriman]

I don't like the idea of infinite progress. I would like there to be some definite resting point. Infinite progress seems to imply I should be continually, and infinitely, speeding towards some unknown and unknowable goal, and that this speeding process is beyond my control.

There is a point where personal progress ceases.

I hope you don't mean death, because you don't know that.

[UniverseCaptain]

I'll give you an example - I created a religion today called BreadAndEggs. My religion believes that there is a 40000lb Green Elephant that created the world that was 100 metres tall. This Elephant was the most intelligent and functional being that ever existed. It could also run at a top speed of 10,000 miles per hour. If you believe in religion as a concept then this new religion is on par with Christianity. Without adding to the posts already, or writing a lot, I believe all religious folk suffer from anxiety about death - they are playing the pascal dance - it is all about Pascal's wager and if it isn't then the person has been completely brainwashed and is a sheep that acts instead of living.

[Fake Messiah]

It is sad that Christians still cling to a ridiculous notion that science will come to the end, or a big uncrossable hurdle, for which the scientists will look in the Bible and say "Oh, so here is the answer."

[brewer]

There is a point where personal progress ceases.

I hope you don't mean death, because you don't know that.

That's exactly what I mean and I've seen no evidence to make me think differently.

[Ahriman]

I hope you don't mean death, because you don't know that.

That's exactly what I mean and I've seen no evidence to make me think differently.

Well there isn't any evidence. So what. Use your imagination.

[brewer]

That's exactly what I mean and I've seen no evidence to make me think differently.

Well there isn't any evidence. So what. Use your imagination.

Why, I have no psychological need of an afterlife. Some of us don't need a fantasy security blanket.

[Ahriman]

Well there isn't any evidence. So what. Use your imagination.

Why, I have no psychological need of an afterlife. Some of us don't need a fantasy security blanket.

Well that's fine. Boring, but fine. But just because you don't believe in an afterlife, doesn't mean it can't exist.

[zebo-the-fat]

Why, I have no psychological need of an afterlife. Some of us don't need a fantasy security blanket.

Well that's fine. Boring, but fine. But just because you don't believe in an afterlife, doesn't mean it can't exist.

Based on all the available evidence, the chances of an afterlife are so small as to be not worth considering. Unless you have some evidence for it? (by evidence I mean something that can be independantly tested and confirmed, writing in an old book of myths and stories does not count as evidence)

[Ahriman]

Well that's fine. Boring, but fine. But just because you don't believe in an afterlife, doesn't mean it can't exist.

Based on all the available evidence, the chances of an afterlife are so small as to be not worth considering. Unless you have some evidence for it?  (by evidence I mean something that can be independantly tested and confirmed, writing in an old book of myths and stories does not count as evidence)

Near death experiences?