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RE: atheists
November 27, 2021 at 11:00 pm
(November 27, 2021 at 10:36 pm)Foxaire Wrote: I believe there is no god. It makes me a hard atheist in more ways than one.
Yair, Quite.
Stating "There is no god" or "'I believe there is no god" are affirming statements and attract the burden of proof.
An invidious place to be for theist or atheist. As far as I'm aware, all claims about god(s) are unfalsifiable. IE so far, nobody has managed to demonstrate the existence or non existence of god(s) That absence of empirical evidence implies (suggests) The non existence of god(s), it does not infer it (allow such a conclusion).
I call myself an agnostic atheist. IE The absence of empirical evidence does not allow me to believe. However, I make no claims for the same reason.
In a purely pragmatic sense, I live as if there are no god(s). The distinction therefore becomes moot. Quite happy to discuss it with you, but not with our new little friend just yet.
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See Russell's Teapot:
Russell's teapot is an analogy, formulated by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970), to illustrate that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making empirically unfalsifiable claims, rather than shifting the burden of disproof to others.
Russell specifically applied his analogy in the context of religion.[1] He wrote that if he were to assert, without offering proof, that a teapot, too small to be seen by telescopes, orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, he could not expect anyone to believe him solely because his assertion could not be proven wrong.
Russell's teapot is still invoked in discussions concerning the existence of God, and has had influence in various fields and media.
Russell's teapot - Wikipedia
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RE: atheists
November 27, 2021 at 11:00 pm
(November 27, 2021 at 10:56 pm)ergo Wrote: I'd love to know him, did he say what the secret was?
Yes.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: atheists
November 27, 2021 at 11:03 pm
(November 27, 2021 at 10:27 pm)ergo Wrote: Please tell me if you know the meaning of life & I will happily concur or debate you, but I am quite sure no-one else but me knows it.
This sounds like a scam I know. Scam premise: "I know the meaning of life but I'll only tell you for a lot of money. But how about you tell me what you think the meaning of life is and I'll tell you if you're correct or not." I'm wise to these shenanigans.
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RE: atheists
November 27, 2021 at 11:06 pm
(November 27, 2021 at 11:03 pm)Ten Wrote: (November 27, 2021 at 10:27 pm)ergo Wrote: Please tell me if you know the meaning of life & I will happily concur or debate you, but I am quite sure no-one else but me knows it.
This sounds like a scam I know. Scam premise: "I know the meaning of life but I'll only tell you for a lot of money. But how about you tell me what you think the meaning of life is and I'll tell you if you're correct or not." I'm wise to these shenanigans. No scam, I am not jesus who gave away worthless information for nothing except glory. Sorry, but I do know the meaning of life & it will cost to get it out of me because everybody wants to know it.
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RE: atheists
November 27, 2021 at 11:07 pm
Moderator Notice Again, please move anything other than welcome out of the introduction section.
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RE: atheists
November 27, 2021 at 11:10 pm
(November 27, 2021 at 11:00 pm)brewer Wrote: (November 27, 2021 at 10:56 pm)ergo Wrote: I'd love to know him, did he say what the secret was?
Yes. What did he say it was, in a few words that is?
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RE: atheists
November 27, 2021 at 11:10 pm
Sorry, arewe.
Welcome, new person.
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RE: atheists
November 27, 2021 at 11:11 pm
(November 27, 2021 at 11:10 pm)ergo Wrote: (November 27, 2021 at 11:00 pm)brewer Wrote: Yes. What did he say it was, in a few words that is?
Tell me in my other thread.
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RE: atheists
November 27, 2021 at 11:11 pm
(November 27, 2021 at 11:10 pm)ergo Wrote: (November 27, 2021 at 11:00 pm)brewer Wrote: Yes. What did he say it was, in a few words that is?
I'll tell you in the other thread.
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RE: atheists - edit to add Introduction
November 27, 2021 at 11:22 pm
Moderator Notice I edited the title of this thread to clarify that it is on the Intro forum to help with clear up confusion with two threads with the same name originally.
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