Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.

[Astreja]

Both are absolutely unacceptable responses.  Maiming is never okay.  Ever.  It doesn't fucking matter what scripture authorizes it - in all cases, it is a violation of the criminal's human rights.

But Astrega, the whole world -especially westerm countries- are exporting "maiming devices" called live ammunition; and deploy them to fighting jets and landmines, and crossed the level of hypocrisy to sell them for billions of Dollars to dictators who use maiming + butchery towards millions of innocent people, like the "maiming war of Yemen" that the west + Saudi Arabia are waging now.

Calling maiming with other names like "tactical airstrike" remains what it is: a maiming strike.

I'm not happy about that either, Winter.  At some point we have to simply say "This is bad, and it doesn't matter who's doing it, and it doesn't matter how they're trying to justify it."  If an action is wrong, it's wrong in all contexts.

[Deesse23]

It's not related. My societies don't even carry these sentences anymore.

"Anymore"? Have they been carried out in the past?
Why are these sentences made nevertheless in the 21st century?

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But no touching to the eyes unless the commuter touched the eye of the victim first. Messing with eyes is inhumane.

You noticed that you just accused Islam of being inhumane?

Heres the syllogism, for the mentally challenged, or a dishonest fuck like you:

p1 Messing with eyes is inhumane
p2 Islam messes with eyes when the commuter touched the eye of the victim first
c Islam is inhumane

Btw: Chopping off hands is not?

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So this is how rapists, serial killers and armed robbers are dealt with in Allah's quran.
While in your land, they become guests in 7 star rooms called prison to masturbate for life fantasying about what they did.

Killers get sentenced for life in my country, not crucified like the Quran, according to the article you linked, suggests.
What is the sentence in Islam for someone visiting an atheist forum and spreading heresy?

In certain contexts, classical jurists took it to refer to the legal category of Hirabah, comprising armed assault, rape and murder.[6]

And you seem to masturbate at the thought of (cross) amputation and crucifiction. So whats the difference between you and a serial killer? Both of you have no business in a civilized society.

[The Architect Of Fate]

But Astrega, the whole world -especially westerm countries- are exporting "maiming devices" called live ammunition

Yeah because Muslims neither develop nor use weapons that maim 

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It's not related. My societies don't even carry these sentences anymore.

Tell me when was the last legal Christain eye-gouging? And your societies are still doing this shit.

But no touching to the eyes unless the commuter touched the eye of the victim first. Messing with eyes is inhumane.

As opposed to the shit your okay with

So this is how rapists, serial killers and armed robbers are dealt with in Allah's quran.

While in your land, they become guests in 7 star rooms called prison to masturbate for life fantasying about what they did.

Kind of like how you seem turned on by mutilation 

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Or apostasy, or disbelief, or....


In certain cases it also referred to armed, assault, and murder.

[emphasis mine]

So it's clear that spreading corruption in the land can refer to apostasy or disbelief and that verse, referring to corruption, was inspired by the blinding of criminals.

But the same link also says:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasad

In certain contexts, classical jurists took it to refer to the legal category of Hirabah, comprising armed assault, rape and murder.[6]

Shame..shame.
So this is how rapists, serial killers and armed robbers are dealt with in Allah's quran.
While in your land, they become guests in 7 star rooms called prison to masturbate for life fantasying about what they did.

(Bold mine)

People who have never been in prison will kindly shut the fuck up about prison conditions.

Boru

[Angrboda]

The compassionate face of Islam





Nothing to see here but another hate-mongering apologist for Muslim atrocities.

[WinterHold]

But Astrega, the whole world -especially westerm countries- are exporting "maiming devices" called live ammunition; and deploy them to fighting jets and landmines, and crossed the level of hypocrisy to sell them for billions of Dollars to dictators who use maiming + butchery towards millions of innocent people, like the "maiming war of Yemen" that the west + Saudi Arabia are waging now.

Calling maiming with other names like "tactical airstrike" remains what it is: a maiming strike.

I'm not happy about that either, Winter.  At some point we have to simply say "This is bad, and it doesn't matter who's doing it, and it doesn't matter how they're trying to justify it."  If an action is wrong, it's wrong in all contexts.

We must consider the "psychological trauma" that crimes leave when brutal penalties are mentioned as a cure for them: certain crimes leave a stigma; an almost permanent mark in the brain of the victim that keeps circulating if not cured & treated.

Curing the stigma is referred to as "healing of chests" in the Quran:

Sura 9, The Quran:

https://quran.com/9:14?store=false&translations=

(14) Combat them, so that Allah may punish them at your hands and disgrace them and support you against them and heal the chests of a believing people

(15) and remove the rage in their hearts. And Allah grants repentance and accepts it from whomever He wills. And Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

— Fadel Soliman, Bridges’ translation 

Islam doesn't order painful penalties because it is evil. But because these crimes leave stigmas and permanent marks in one's brain and if not treated with a just retribution, the victim will get consumed by the shame and pain, and will go into a vendetta frenzy, or end their life altogether to escape the stigma.

[Astreja]

I'm not happy about that either, Winter.  At some point we have to simply say "This is bad, and it doesn't matter who's doing it, and it doesn't matter how they're trying to justify it."  If an action is wrong, it's wrong in all contexts.

We must consider the "psychological trauma" that crimes leave when brutal penalties are mentioned as a cure for them: certain crimes leave a stigma; an almost permanent mark in the brain of the victim that keeps circulating if not cured & treated.

No; I reject that rationalization.  The punishment must fit the crime and not surpass it, and taking away a living body part as retaliation for the loss of a non-living item is blatant injustice.

Always.

No. Fucking.  Exceptions.

And any society that permits such injustice is a society that deserves to fail so that it can be replaced by a more sane one.

[The Grand Nudger]

A vendetta frenzy, lol. Well..I guess that does explain alot.

[The Architect Of Fate]

We must consider the "psychological trauma" that crimes leave when brutal penalties are mentioned as a cure for them: certain crimes leave a stigma; an almost permanent mark in the brain of the victim that keeps circulating if not cured & treated.

Needless brutality to the guilty will never cure the innocent

[WinterHold]

We must consider the "psychological trauma" that crimes leave when brutal penalties are mentioned as a cure for them: certain crimes leave a stigma; an almost permanent mark in the brain of the victim that keeps circulating if not cured & treated.

No; I reject that rationalization.  The punishment must fit the crime and not surpass it, and taking away a living body part as retaliation for the loss of a non-living item is blatant injustice.

Always.

No. Fucking.  Exceptions.

And any society that permits such injustice is a society that deserves to fail so that it can be replaced by a more sane one.

The brain is a living organ just like your hands. If you cause a permanent trauma to it then the person ceases to function probably:

Spending on mental health treatment and services reached $225 billion in 2019, according to an Open Minds Market Intelligence Report

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/10/cost-and...e%20Report.  

In America alone, spending on keeping that organ away from permanent traumas & stigmas reached 225 billion $ in 2019 !!
Still, it is a society full of psychopaths and their mental health showed what level of apathy it reached in my civilisation's encounter with them in 2003 ! the Japanese told similar stories of utter psychopathy about their ancestors.

To each their view; but you can ask a an African parent who got their daughter raped and killed about where they would prefer her attacker to be trailed: a country where they would be imprisoned for life -with  a chance of parole- or an Islamic country where they would be hanged probably.