RE: Russia and Ukraine
May 7, 2023 at 2:13 pm
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2023 at 2:13 pm by purplepurpose.)
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(May 7, 2023 at 2:13 pm)purplepurpose Wrote:I'm hard-pressed to find a law that says they aren't allowed to be involved at all.(May 7, 2023 at 2:11 pm)Helios Wrote: Who needs to give said right?
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! ![]() “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM RE: Russia and Ukraine
May 7, 2023 at 2:20 pm
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2023 at 2:25 pm by purplepurpose.)
(May 7, 2023 at 2:14 pm)Helios Wrote:(May 7, 2023 at 2:13 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Was victoria nuland and her colleagues actions were legal in your opinion?I'm hard-pressed to find a law that says they aren't allowed to be involved at all. USA goverment wanted people in Ukraine goverment that will be beneficial to their interests. And we are talking about the strong country bordering Russia. Thats so diplomatic and peace loving. Not provoking at all. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() RE: Russia and Ukraine
May 7, 2023 at 2:24 pm
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2023 at 2:28 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:USA goverment wanted people in Ukraine goverment that will be beneficial to their interests. And we are talking about the country bordering Russia. Thats so diplomatic and peace loving. Not provoking at all...Again simply being involved is not a provocation and again NATO already has members that border Russia that's also not a provocation. Sorry, this line of reasoning doesn't work and sure as hell doesn't give Russia the right to invade other countries. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! ![]() “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM (May 7, 2023 at 2:24 pm)Helios Wrote:Quote:USA goverment wanted people in Ukraine goverment that will be beneficial to their interests. And we are talking about the country bordering Russia. Thats so diplomatic and peace loving. Not provoking at all...Again simply being involved is not a provocation and again NATO already has members that border Russia that's also not a provocation. Sorry, this line of reasoning doesn't work and sure as hell doesn't give Russia the right to invade other countries. As if we can do something about empires deciding who is the top dog. Quote:As if we can do something about empires deciding who is the top dog.In the case of Russia, we can stop them from taking over Ukraine so things can be done. The idea that they should be allowed to do as they please is not a wise idea.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! ![]() “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM RE: Russia and Ukraine
May 7, 2023 at 2:31 pm
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2023 at 2:34 pm by purplepurpose.)
(May 7, 2023 at 2:30 pm)Helios Wrote:Quote:As if we can do something about empires deciding who is the top dog.In the case of Russia, we can stop them from taking over Ukraine so things can be done. The idea that they should be allowed to do as they please is not a wise idea. But West has opened pandora box. Invading other nations became a new norm... Russians has said it themselves "If you can invade foreign nations, why we can't invade?". Quote:But West has opened pandora box. Invading other nations became a new norm... Russians has said it themselves "If you can invade foreign nations, why we can't invade?".Whataboutism and Russia have been invading nations longer than America has existed. It's not like America invent invasions.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! ![]() “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM RE: Russia and Ukraine
May 7, 2023 at 2:49 pm
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2023 at 2:55 pm by purplepurpose.)
(May 7, 2023 at 2:38 pm)Helios Wrote:Quote:But West has opened pandora box. Invading other nations became a new norm... Russians has said it themselves "If you can invade foreign nations, why we can't invade?".Whataboutism and Russia have been invading nations longer than America has existed. It's not like America invent invasions. I am talking about post WW2 period. Creation of UN. The noble ideas behind it. It was all fake, from russians point of view, because West does what it wants. I am russian, born in EU. I can see the russian side of conflict. Quote:I am talking about post WW2 period. Creation of UN. The noble ideas behind it. It was all fake, from russians point of view, because West does what it wants. I am russian, born in EU. I can see the russian side clearly.And Russia did lots of invasions in repressions in that period too. And again your statement is simply Whataboutism
"Change was inevitable"
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