[split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children

[Ahriman]

Name it.

Ok, sure, here's the Wiki link on antina...

Nah, on second thought, you're a very special person with a very unique view that no one has ever thought of before, please ignore.

Anti-natalism? I doubt very many of those people understand the inherent worthlessness of life. They are probably only abstaining from having children because no one will have children with them, or for some other selfish reason.

[The Grand Nudger]

[arewethereyet]

I know my perspective is something most people wouldn't easily understand, as it's effectively beyond most people's comprehension. I am one of the only people on this planet who knows the truth, or rather, knows the truth well enough to defend it. Most people won't defend the truth, which is why I have written them off as cowards.

Right here is proof of trolling.

Dude thinks nobody has the level of comprehension he does.

Step out into the real world...while properly medicated...Twinkletoes.  Take some responsibility for your life.

[Ahriman]

I know my perspective is something most people wouldn't easily understand, as it's effectively beyond most people's comprehension. I am one of the only people on this planet who knows the truth, or rather, knows the truth well enough to defend it. Most people won't defend the truth, which is why I have written them off as cowards.

Right here is proof of trolling.

Dude thinks nobody has the level of comprehension he does.

Step out into the real world...while properly medicated...Twinkletoes.  Take some responsibility for your life.

I am pathologically incapable of doing that.

[Jehanne]

Right here is proof of trolling.

Dude thinks nobody has the level of comprehension he does.

Step out into the real world...while properly medicated...Twinkletoes.  Take some responsibility for your life.

I am pathologically incapable of doing that.

As I said, you need a therapist, if not an ambulance. But, I suspect trolling here, also. I would guess age 14 or 15.

[arewethereyet]

I am pathologically incapable of doing that.

As I said, you need a therapist, if not an ambulance.  But, I suspect trolling here, also.  I would guess age 14 or 15.

I have tried to develop some sort of connection with Ahriman.  But I'm kind of at the end of my patience.  This is starting to seem like a new bid for relevance on the forum by implying that suddenly things are terrible.

Maybe it is bipolar since we have gone from rainbows and butterflies and all things are peachy to where ever it is we are now.

I don't know.

Real help, if desired, isn't going to come from here.

[LadyForCamus]

@Ahriman is, and has always been a low-effort troll. Bi-polar or not. The two certainly aren’t mutually exclusive.

[Ahriman]

As I said, you need a therapist, if not an ambulance.  But, I suspect trolling here, also.  I would guess age 14 or 15.

I have tried to develop some sort of connection with Ahriman.  But I'm kind of at the end of my patience.  This is starting to seem like a new bid for relevance on the forum by implying that suddenly things are terrible.

Maybe it is bipolar since we have gone from rainbows and butterflies and all things are peachy to where ever it is we are now.

I don't know.

Real help, if desired, isn't going to come from here.

It's not going unnoticed. I appreciate your efforts.

[Jehanne]

I have tried to develop some sort of connection with Ahriman.  But I'm kind of at the end of my patience.  This is starting to seem like a new bid for relevance on the forum by implying that suddenly things are terrible.

Maybe it is bipolar since we have gone from rainbows and butterflies and all things are peachy to where ever it is we are now.

I don't know.

Real help, if desired, isn't going to come from here.

It's not going unnoticed. I appreciate your efforts.

Do yourself a favor, and just walk into the nearest ER. Tell them that you are depressed, and others whom you've talked to think that you may be suicidal. They will talk to you and will (likely) send you home with a referral.

[Disagreeable]

State your axioms, define your variables, and show your proof.

All people brought into this world will suffer in some way/shape/form, and the "good" does not outweigh the "bad", really not even close. Is that not proof enough?

Antinatalism ftw.

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Yes, it's just you.

Not true. It's also me and other antinatalists. And my life is just fine, thank you. There's a big difference between refusing to begin a life and wanting to end one. Just like how there's a big difference to recognizing that the world would be a better place if certain holy books never existed on the one hand and actually advocating to burn them on the other hand.

You say it's just this one person but you are wrong. Antinatalism is a thing. There are lots of us. A large minority.

Adoption FTW. Better to help lives that already exist rather than add to the problem. And, yes, humanity is a problem. All arguments are ultimately question begging on some level. If you don't share the intuition then that isn't my problem. It's clear to me and others who see it.