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Theist with Questions
#11
RE: Theist with Questions
If you consider what the phrase ‘near death experience’ actually means, most people have had them. For example, if you cross the street without looking and a taxi driver has to stand on his brakes to avoid running you over, leaving 50 feet of tire marks on the road and the smell of burnt rubber in the air before managing to stop just six inches from you, you’ve  been near death.

In that case, the experience of shitting yourself should count as an NDE.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#12
RE: Theist with Questions
(March 28, 2022 at 4:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 27, 2022 at 10:21 pm)RBP3280 Wrote: I'm an ex agnostic, turned theist. I'm not a fundamentalist, actually fairly unorthodox. 

My turning point was due to people who have been clinically dead and were resuscitated, as well are recovery of terminally ill that should not have survived but did and most with very few side effects from their injury or illness. 

I'm not here to sway opinions but to hear different beliefs and ask questions. 

I'm always interested in talking to people that have had near death experiences, and especially if they were considered clinically dead.

In 1987, I was caught in an explosion. I was told later than I had 'clinically died' for several seconds during surgery - no heartbeat, no breathing (it was emergency surgery, so I can't make claims about brain function).

No tunnel with a light at the end, no white robed figures - nothing. I remember being in the street where the explosion took place, and then I woke up in hospital a week later. Nothing in between.

I think that fits in rather neatly with the vast majority of perithanatic experiences.

Boru

Glad that you made it through!!
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#13
RE: Theist with Questions
Interesting introduction thread.

Hello new entity.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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#14
RE: Theist with Questions
Welcome. You sound like you have a rather uncommon viewpoint to contribute. I look forward to hearing your views.
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#15
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(March 28, 2022 at 9:03 am)Angrboda Wrote: Welcome. You sound like you have a rather uncommon viewpoint to contribute. I look forward to hearing your views.

Growing up I was convinced of NDEs; had a number of night terrors about dying and going to Hell.
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#16
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(March 28, 2022 at 9:14 am)Jehanne Wrote:
(March 28, 2022 at 9:03 am)Angrboda Wrote: Welcome.  You sound like you have a rather uncommon viewpoint to contribute.  I look forward to hearing your views.

Growing up I was convinced of NDEs; had a number of night terrors about dying and going to Hell.

I've investigated the Pam Reynold's case at length, and the details simply do not match up to the claims. Admittedly I have my biases, and that is only one case, but I would be surprised if that is uncommon.
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#17
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(March 28, 2022 at 7:19 am)Jehanne Wrote:
(March 28, 2022 at 4:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: In 1987, I was caught in an explosion. I was told later than I had 'clinically died' for several seconds during surgery - no heartbeat, no breathing (it was emergency surgery, so I can't make claims about brain function).

No tunnel with a light at the end, no white robed figures - nothing. I remember being in the street where the explosion took place, and then I woke up in hospital a week later. Nothing in between.

I think that fits in rather neatly with the vast majority of perithanatic experiences.

Boru

Glad that you made it through!!

So am I, usually.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#18
RE: Theist with Questions
(March 27, 2022 at 10:21 pm)RBP3280 Wrote: I'm an ex agnostic, turned theist. I'm not a fundamentalist, actually fairly unorthodox. 

My turning point was due to people who have been clinically dead and were resuscitated, as well are recovery of terminally ill that should not have survived but did and most with very few side effects from their injury or illness. 

I'm not here to sway opinions but to hear different beliefs and ask questions. 

I'm always interested in talking to people that have had near death experiences, and especially if they were considered clinically dead.



Clinically dead merely means vitals cannot found, or it can mean a misdiagnosis.

Funny how humans dont come back after you decapitated their heads
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#19
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(March 28, 2022 at 11:32 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(March 27, 2022 at 10:21 pm)RBP3280 Wrote: I'm an ex agnostic, turned theist. I'm not a fundamentalist, actually fairly unorthodox. 

My turning point was due to people who have been clinically dead and were resuscitated, as well are recovery of terminally ill that should not have survived but did and most with very few side effects from their injury or illness. 

I'm not here to sway opinions but to hear different beliefs and ask questions. 

I'm always interested in talking to people that have had near death experiences, and especially if they were considered clinically dead.



Clinically dead merely means vitals cannot found, or it can mean a misdiagnosis.

Funny how humans dont come back after you decapitated their heads

You don’t decapitate heads. ‘Decapitate’ means to remove someone’s head. To decapitate a head would be to remove a head from a head.

Glad you’re back. I’ve missed this. Wink

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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(March 28, 2022 at 11:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 28, 2022 at 11:32 am)Brian37 Wrote: Clinically dead merely means vitals cannot found, or it can mean a misdiagnosis.

Funny how humans dont come back after you decapitated their heads

You don’t decapitate heads. ‘Decapitate’ means to remove someone’s head. To decapitate a head would be to removed a head from a head.

Glad you’re back. I’ve missed this. Wink

Boru

Yeah - I was wondering where 37 got to.

Good to see you old irrational one.   Clap
  
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