Nuclear missiles in Cuba?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Quarantine worked once, no reason it wouldn’t work again.

Boru

And, so, another bluff?

Actually, the US pulled Jupiter nuclear missiles out of Turkey to help resolve that crisis. Our move wasn't a bluff, it was more a matter of us realizing we didn't know the true intentions of the USSR and deciding to de-escalate.

Having said that, I'd like to think if it occurred again, we could use diplomacy to resolve the matter, and if not, put SSBNs around Russia or the Chinese coastline to enact a little persuasion.

And as a last thought, because of the march of technology, neither China nor Russia need to have nukes that close to threaten us. Remember, in 1962, missiles had shorter ranges, and the Soviets only had about 20 ICBMs capable of hitting America from the USSR, with poor accuracy; that has certainly changed. The Chinese have a much smaller but still potent combination of ICBMs and SLBMs, so again, no need to get in yo face.

Reducing flight-times is nice, but with modern MIRVs and decoys, SLBMs, and nuclear cruise missiles, the 30 minutes it takes for a missile barrage from Russia, China, or either's subs (less time n the latter case) to hit America will still flummox any defensive arrangements.

[The Architect Of Fate]

And, so, another bluff?

Actually, the US pulled Jupiter nuclear missiles out of Turkey to help resolve that crisis. Our move wasn't a bluff, it was more a matter of us realizing we didn't know the true intentions of the USSR and deciding to de-escalate.

Having said that, I'd like to think if it occurred again, we could use diplomacy to resolve the matter, and if not, put SSBNx around Russia or the Chinese coastline to enact a little persuasion.

And as a last thought, because of the march of technology, neither China nor Russia need to have nukes that close to threaten us. Remember, in 1962, missiles had shorter ranges, and the Soviets only had about 20 ICBMs capable of hitting America from the USSR, with poor accuracy; that has certainly changed. The Chinese have a much smaller but still potent combination of ICBMs and SLBMx, so again, no need to get in yo face.

Reducing flight-times is nice, but with modern MIRVs and decoys,  SLBMs, and nuclear cruise missiles, the 30 minutes it takes for a missile barrage from Russia, China, or either's subs (less time n the latter case) to hit America will still flummox any defensive arrangements.

So I guess Russia will have to invade the whole world to feel safe. Of course, the threat of nukes being placed in Ukraine was always just a pretense. Putin wants to make "Russia Great Again"

[Thumpalumpacus]

Ukraine wasn't going to ever have NATO nuclear missiles.  They gave up the Russian ones.  However, in 20 years, I wouldn't be surprised if a "neutral" Ukraine develops their own in secret.

Sadly, they have every reason to, now. One more possible unintended consequence for Uncle Vladdy, and who'd blame them? I wouldn't.

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So I guess Russia will have to invade the whole world to feel safe. Of course, the threat of nukes being placed in Ukraine was always just a pretense. Putin wants to make "Russia Great Again"

He regards the breakup of the USSR as the greatest calamity of the 20th Century: greater than the Holocaust or either World War, greater than the Holomodor the USSR inflicted on Ukraine in the 30s.

That tells me all I need to know about his priorities.

[Jehanne]

So we should invite Russian intermediate range ballistic missiles back into cuba then?

Invite them no. But if Cuba wants those missiles we have no right to say they aren't allowed to have them there.

No objection then to Iran developing nuclear weapons/missiles?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Invite them no. But if Cuba wants those missiles we have no right to say they aren't allowed to have them there.

No objection then to Iran developing nuclear weapons/missiles?

Personally, I would prefer they not pursue it and I hope deals are made to that end. But if ultimately they do choose to pursue it then yes they can.

[Anomalocaris]

No objection then to Iran developing nuclear weapons/missiles?

Personally, I would prefer they not pursue it and I hope deals are made to that end. But if ultimately they do choose to pursue it then yes they can.

taliban?

[The Architect Of Fate]

taliban?

Again i wouldn't like them having them but yes.

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There are lots of countries that have nukes that I don't like having nukes

[Anomalocaris]

taliban?

Again i wouldn't like them having them but yes.

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There are lots of countries that have nukes that I don't like having nukes

ISIS?

[The Architect Of Fate]

ISIS?

Not sure they count as a legitimate government and now that I think about it are the Taliban even recognized as one? If not then maybe they should not have nukes.