Grand Rapids Mi Shooting

[onlinebiker]

Who has said that it was an execution?

I skimmed article from four different news sources, and I didn’t find any reporting of protestors calling this an execution (not saying no one has, just that I didn’t find it). Some of them are using terms like ‘murderer’ and ‘killer cop’, but that’s not remotely the same thing.

Boru

Obviously you did not want to find this result.
Try googling Lyoya execution.
https://www.newsweek.com/patrick-lyoya-s...20%251%24s
I have heard it on WGVU ( fm radio ) several times.- and there are several online articles.

[The Architect Of Fate]

At best 6 people have called it an execution and none of them are protesters and articles on google are simply quoting those people with only one article I could find calling an execution. So this is a whole lot of nothing burger.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I skimmed article from four different news sources, and I didn’t find any reporting of protestors calling this an execution (not saying no one has, just that I didn’t find it). Some of them are using terms like ‘murderer’ and ‘killer cop’, but that’s not remotely the same thing.

Boru

Obviously you did not want to find this result.
Try googling Lyoya execution.
https://www.newsweek.com/patrick-lyoya-s...20%251%24s
I have heard it on WGVU ( fm radio ) several times.- and there are several online articles.

I took your advice, but I still can’t find protestors calling it an execution. The man in the article who said, ‘It looks like an execution’ is a former federal prosecutor and legal analyst, not a protestor. The dead man’s family are calling it an execution (understandable, given what they’re going through), but they don’t appear to have take part in any protests. A county commissioner flat out called it an execution, but county commissioners don’t generally take part in street protests.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

Obviously you did not want to find this result.
Try googling Lyoya execution.
https://www.newsweek.com/patrick-lyoya-s...20%251%24s
I have heard it on WGVU ( fm radio ) several times.- and there are several online articles.

I took your advice, but I still can’t find protestors calling it an execution. The man in the article who said, ‘It looks like an execution’ is a former federal prosecutor and legal analyst, not a protestor. The dead man’s family are calling it an execution (understandable, given what they’re going through), but they don’t appear to have take part in any protests. A county commissioner flat out called it an execution, but county commissioners don’t generally take part in street protests.

Boru

Yeah..  We know how REASONABLE protestors are....


They would NEVER exaggerate a charge....

[Rev. Rye]

And now he recognizes that guns can just go off. Either that or he holds the police to a lower moral standard than Alec Baldwin.

[onlinebiker]

And now he recognizes that guns can just go off. Either that or he holds the police to a lower moral standard than Alec Baldwin.

Blow it out your ass.


Guns do NOT " just go off by themselves" - and it takes an ignorant shit to insist they do - as an excuse for stupidity.

FUCKING READ WHAT I WROTE - 

Cop pulled gun with finger on trigger.  A big no-no.

Why is it a no- no?

Because finger on trigger squeezes with rest of hand grasping firearm. 

A case of poor firearm handling training.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I took your advice, but I still can’t find protestors calling it an execution. The man in the article who said, ‘It looks like an execution’ is a former federal prosecutor and legal analyst, not a protestor. The dead man’s family are calling it an execution (understandable, given what they’re going through), but they don’t appear to have take part in any protests. A county commissioner flat out called it an execution, but county commissioners don’t generally take part in street protests.

Boru

Yeah..  We know how REASONABLE protestors are....


They would NEVER exaggerate a charge....

In this case, they’re not exaggerating by using the word ‘execution’, because - your initial claim to the contrary - there doesn’t appear to be any evidence that the protestors are the ones calling this an execution.

Boru

[Rev. Rye]

I'm not convinced that that particular part actually matters. In his mind, he hears people referring to the killing as an execution, and he assumes that this must be the protesters exaggerating. The fact that the people calling it an execution aren't actually protesters just doesn't seem to matter. And judging by what I've seen of his debating, he will defend his position for as long as is feasible without looking like a total idiot and when it turns out he can't defend it anymore, he'll deny any claim that he held the position that he's been explicitly arguing throughout the thread.

[Aegon]

 It appears to me (this part is strictly opinion - as I do not have access to the original videos and good viewing equipment) that the cop drew the gun with his finger in the trigger. A no - no. This is how guns "just went off".

My point - execution is a deliberate act. Pre-meditated and carefully carried out.

This is the only part that matters, and your speculation is giving the cop the benefit of the doubt. I don't think it would be unwarranted to call it an "execution" if he was intent on shooting the suspect in the head while on the suspect's back - but it also doesn't matter at all. Whether he intended to shoot him or it legitimately was an accidental discharge should be the focus here. A semantics debate over whether it is technically "execution" because the suspect wasn't zip-tied or something is a silly waste of time and energy.

Also you're falling for the classic social media trick - a few people say something and you immediately assume it's a widespread belief. "Protestors," as if hundreds or thousands may be saying this, when in reality it's a dozen people on social media getting likes from people who are also being tricked and manipulated.

[brewer]

They should have pulled over the governor.

Whoot whoot!