How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?

[awty]

No that's not what I am saying.  Black women have wombs, unless they have been removed surgically.  They also most likely have fallopian tubes and ovaries...at least as far as I know.

That's exactly what your saying if women all have wombs (unless removed surgically), then people claiming to be women never having a womb, can't be real women. I'm just using your logic.

Some people are born with one kidney....sometimes your god fucks up.

[Ahriman]

That's exactly what your saying if women all have wombs (unless removed surgically), then people claiming to be women never having a womb, can't be real women. I'm just using your logic.

Some people are born with one kidney....sometimes your god fucks up.

Fearfully and wonderfully made, my kidney......

[Anomalocaris]

@arewethereyet

I like how you guys treat all these case like some extreme outlier, but if I ask you to point out a case where a trans person is being discriminated against because their trans, you'll bring up some obscure outlier.

In case you haven’t noticed, that screenshot came from the clubhouse chat app, which had 267 people in it, not like the trans community is all that big.

Are there a lot of black women looking for womb transplants?

His mother probably wishes she had a different womb……..

Ok, that was not entirely called for…..

[The Architect Of Fate]

I like how you guys treat all these case like some extreme outlier, but if I ask you to point out a case where a trans person is being discriminated against because their trans, you'll bring up some obscure outlier.

In case you haven’t noticed, that screenshot came from the clubhouse chat app, which had 267 people in it, not like the trans community is all that big.

Because these are extreme outliers and discrimination against trans people isn't. And 267 out of nearly 1.4 million adults in the US alone is less than nothing and even confirm all the people who were there were even Trans or even agree with the statement.

[The Architect Of Fate]

That's exactly what your saying if women all have wombs (unless removed surgically), then people claiming to be women never having a womb, can't be real women. I'm just using your logic.

Nowhere in her statement did she make having a womb a prerequisite for being a woman nor did she say people without them aren't women .....

[awty]

That's exactly what your saying if women all have wombs (unless removed surgically), then people claiming to be women never having a womb, can't be real women. I'm just using your logic.

Nowhere in her statement did she make having a womb a prerequisite for being a woman nor did she say people without them aren't women .....

Agreed - A couple years ago my older daughter had hers surgically removed due to medical issues.  She as still as much a woman as I am after having my breasts removed.

A body part does not make a person.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Nowhere in her statement did she make having a womb a prerequisite for being a woman nor did she say people without them aren't women .....

Agreed - A couple years ago my older daughter had hers surgically removed due to medical issues.  She as still as much a woman as I am after having my breasts removed.

A body part does not make a person.

Agreed 

[tackattack]

but don't body parts make up part of a person... perhaps it would be more accurate to say, "My identity isn't defined by a body part"?

[awty]

but don't body parts make up part of a person... perhaps it would be more accurate to say, "My identity isn't defined by a body part"?

So, how do my missing body parts change who and what I am?

As for accuracy, you speak for you and I will speak for me.  Deal?

[tackattack]

Deal. My penis doesn't make me a man anymore than not having one would make me a woman. It does indicate that I'm male, and being male is part of my definition for what a "man" is defined as. It's not the only part, and it's not even the most important part. Who you are and what you are are 2 different things. You are who you believe you are, who you were, who you want to be, who you want to represent AND who others see you as. What you are is pretty normative at homo sapien.
It wasn't an attack AWTY, just a conversation. I'm not trying to be argumentative.
Colloquially though I feel the majority of people (since heteronormative is the majority currently) reduce the definition of man to the most basic agreed definition. Is that not the case?