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RE: That pro white thread.
May 2, 2022 at 7:25 pm
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RE: That pro white thread.
May 2, 2022 at 11:23 pm
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(May 2, 2022 at 2:00 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Here's just one example of the government of Canada, as you put it, not abrogating the rights of its' people.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/tr...permanent/ Which of your rights do you think are being abrogated by the emergency act ?
Quote:Now, you probably agree that Canadians should lose those rights because of course you would, but you are living in a fantasy world by pretending that rights are not disappearing.
...such as....?
Quote:What am I going to do about it? Do you work for the FBI or something? What are you going to do about cops looking for people with the wrong plate so they can kill them over that plate? What is Boru going to do about someone supposedly getting killed over Pokemon cards? You have a holocaust of Pokemon fans with Pokemon cards in their hands getting killed for Pokemon by the police. You're just going to stand by and let this happen?
Of course not - I'm one of those ideologically motivated ex grunts..remember? There's no question what I would do, but if you're worried that your own answer would be interesting to the fbi - there's that canary again.
Just so we're clear..I don't lump you in with any ridiculous belief. You, yourself..over many posts.... in many threads, have repeatedly lumped yourself in with the group of people mightily concerned about rights abrogation. I think it's ridiculous, obviously..but it's clear that you do not.
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RE: That pro white thread.
May 3, 2022 at 10:23 am
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RE: That pro white thread.
May 3, 2022 at 12:27 pm
The fact I don't now nor have ever lived in a bubble of any kind has demonstrated to me that at best the other side is wrong and at worst the other side is disingenuous. That said the rest of your commentary simply crumbles to dust.
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RE: That pro white thread.
May 3, 2022 at 12:59 pm
And yet you don't seem to realize how government overreach can lead to precedents that could harm your side in the future? The concerns that IA's "side" was bringing would be the same ones the Left would bring up if it were a Conservative government shutting down an abortion rights protest.
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RE: That pro white thread.
May 3, 2022 at 3:22 pm
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Government overreach can certainly lead to all sorts of fucked up things - but the rights abrogation crowd isn't actually concerned about those things.
Amusingly enough, the rights abrogation folks are incredibly left wing....you know, as long as it's for the whites. The organizing propaganda of contemporary white supremacy is explicitly liberal in it's construction. There were no more reich wing assholes to hook, it was a zero sum game. They needed a new set of lines, and they found ones that worked, and worked on a group they didn't have as much purchase into (and even more specifically and fortuitously, for them..with fucking millenials, lol). I've told the story before..but, for some of us, that was it. We walked, at least initially, because white supremacy had assumed the language of left wing victim politics. Transformed from an aspirational ideology, to a scheme to get nanny'd by the state.
-and here we are.
I will say, though, that if what we're really conerned about is precedent, and not whether rights actually are being abrogated - that's a really bad way to govern. The assholes will always find a way to do asshole shit with whatever precedent you set. It could be giving out hugs and puppies..and somehow.... Or, if you prefer "we can't govern because the assholes won't let us" is a losers bet, especially in this case.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: That pro white thread.
May 3, 2022 at 7:36 pm
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Quote:And yet you don't seem to realize how government overreach can lead to precedents that could harm your side in the future? The concerns that IA's "side" was bringing would be the same ones the Left would bring up if it were a Conservative government shutting down an abortion rights protest.
The absurd idea that the right and their useful morons like IA are going to respect the left-wing rights and not pursue government overreach to take those away anyway is both naive and ridiculous.
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RE: That pro white thread.
May 3, 2022 at 7:39 pm
(May 3, 2022 at 3:22 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Government overreach can certainly lead to all sorts of fucked up things - but the rights abrogation crowd isn't actually concerned about those things.
Amusingly enough, the rights abrogation folks are incredibly left wing....you know, as long as it's for the whites. The organizing propaganda of contemporary white supremacy is explicitly liberal in it's construction. There were no more reich wing assholes to hook, it was a zero sum game. They needed a new set of lines, and they found ones that worked, and worked on a group they didn't have as much purchase into (and even more specifically and fortuitously, for them..with fucking millenials, lol). I've told the story before..but, for some of us, that was it. We walked, at least initially, because white supremacy had assumed the language of left wing victim politics. Transformed from an aspirational ideology, to a scheme to get nanny'd by the state.
-and here we are.
I will say, though, that if what we're really conerned about is precedent, and not whether rights actually are being abrogated - that's a really bad way to govern. The assholes will always find a way to do asshole shit with whatever precedent you set. It could be giving out hugs and puppies..and somehow.... Or, if you prefer "we can't govern because the assholes won't let us" is a losers bet, especially in this case. True
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RE: That pro white thread.
May 3, 2022 at 8:18 pm
(May 3, 2022 at 3:22 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Government overreach can certainly lead to all sorts of fucked up things - but the rights abrogation crowd isn't actually concerned about those things.
Amusingly enough, the rights abrogation folks are incredibly left wing....you know, as long as it's for the whites. The organizing propaganda of contemporary white supremacy is explicitly liberal in it's construction. There were no more reich wing assholes to hook, it was a zero sum game. They needed a new set of lines, and they found ones that worked, and worked on a group they didn't have as much purchase into (and even more specifically and fortuitously, for them..with fucking millenials, lol). I've told the story before..but, for some of us, that was it. We walked, at least initially, because white supremacy had assumed the language of left wing victim politics. Transformed from an aspirational ideology, to a scheme to get nanny'd by the state.
-and here we are.
I will say, though, that if what we're really conerned about is precedent, and not whether rights actually are being abrogated - that's a really bad way to govern. The assholes will always find a way to do asshole shit with whatever precedent you set. It could be giving out hugs and puppies..and somehow.... Or, if you prefer "we can't govern because the assholes won't let us" is a losers bet, especially in this case. Indeed the ridiculous idea that a right-wing government isn't going to try to take away the rights of left-wingers so long as we play nice politically is naive as hell.
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RE: That pro white thread.
May 3, 2022 at 8:48 pm
It's going t be another demonstration of how ineffectual the political left truly is.
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