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So what is GOP's plan for the new wave of newborns?
#21
RE: So what is GOP's plan for the new wave of newborns?
The women in red states need to cut off their boyfriends or husbands. Sex is clearly too dangerous, unless trying to make a child.
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#22
RE: So what is GOP's plan for the new wave of newborns?
(June 27, 2022 at 7:59 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Like I said, the plan is prison.

I think the plan is basically this flow chart:

Is the child white?
-If yes, then is the child poor?
--If yes, then the plan is the military
--If no, then is the child Christian?
---If yes, then the child can be a 'productive member of society'
---If no, then the plan is the military
-If no, then the plan is prison
The whole tone of Church teaching in regard to woman is, to the last degree, contemptuous and degrading. - Elizabeth Cady Stanton
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#23
RE: So what is GOP's plan for the new wave of newborns?
To answer the question asked in the title of this thread, nothing! The morons who offer up adoption are chasing a bullshit utopia that will never exist. Even with more funding for adoption, there still will be a vast majority of unwanted babies never to get adopted. And that money will not come with secular rules. Just like "school choice" it will go to a majority of Christian adoption charities. They will not let LGBT adopt, and they sure as hell would not let atheists adopt. 

They have also no damned intent on funding family stability after a birth even if the parents decide to keep it. Once the baby pops out the GOP has constantly said, "fuck you, you are on your own.'

All this abortion ruling will do is make abortions far more dangerous in the states where they are banned or absurdly and dangerously restricted. 

Nothing good will come from this draconian ruling. It isn't about pro life, it is merely about power over women based on an old book of mythology in the age of male patriarchal dictator kings.
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#24
RE: So what is GOP's plan for the new wave of newborns?
The GOP- Were for freedom and choice 

Also the GOP- Don't you dare make a choice on what goes on inside your own body...... Dodgy
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RE: So what is GOP's plan for the new wave of newborns?
(June 27, 2022 at 5:44 pm)Helios Wrote: The GOP- Were for freedom and choice 

Also the GOP- Don't you dare make a choice on what goes on inside your own body...... Dodgy

Nothing says "small government" quite like sticking a law straight up a woman's vagina.

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RE: So what is GOP's plan for the new wave of newborns?
(June 27, 2022 at 2:32 pm)Brian37 Wrote: To answer the question asked in the title of this thread, nothing! The morons who offer up adoption are chasing a bullshit utopia that will never exist. Even with more funding for adoption, there still will be a vast majority of unwanted babies never to get adopted. And that money will not come with secular rules. Just like "school choice" it will go to a majority of Christian adoption charities. They will not let LGBT adopt, and they sure as hell would not let atheists adopt. 

They have also no damned intent on funding family stability after a birth even if the parents decide to keep it. Once the baby pops out the GOP has constantly said, "fuck you, you are on your own.'

All this abortion ruling will do is make abortions far more dangerous in the states where they are banned or absurdly and dangerously restricted. 

Nothing good will come from this draconian ruling. It isn't about pro life, it is merely about power over women based on an old book of mythology in the age of male patriarchal dictator kings.

The only real plan pro-lifers have to help these babies they "saved" is to expect people to hold to a very unrealistic sexual standard. Some people might be okay with not having sex before marriage, but bear in mind: the same scene from Spotlight where the expert explained that 6% of all Catholic priests offend against children pointed out that half of all priests break their laws of celibacy (mostly in more normal ways).  And priests are men who made a solemn oath to be celibate, and are usually well past their sexual prime. If they can't do it, I can see no reason to expect that horny teenagers will all abstain. The closest thing I've seen to a solution for them is to just marry and not divorce. Fun fact: this is the #4 most popular post on r/prolife and this should speak volumes about how much work they've put into fixing the problem:
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They have a bullshit idea of how things should be, and if they don't actually pan out, well, I guess those are the breaks. Just as long as you don't have an abortion or end a relationship.


Rather telling is this little ad: 



Somehow, it never occurred to the makers of this ad that maybe men like these, the kind that balk at the responsibilities of parenthood, or even the sort of responsibility where they're not trying and failing to be the next PewDiePie probably wouldn't make good parents. Or that making them do so would probably end up making life worse for everyone, including the baby you're trying to keep alive.
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#27
RE: So what is GOP's plan for the new wave of newborns?
Yeah because abstinence-only education in the states has a great track record. It's almost as if humans are sexual creatures and don't just engage in sex for reproduction.... Hehe
“The sun from far gives life. But get close to it and it burns anything down to ashes”

[Image: flag-ukraine_1f1fa-1f1e6.png]  Heart [Image: canada-google.png]        

 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#28
RE: So what is GOP's plan for the new wave of newborns?
Abortion was always a eugenics program directed against and marketed to the underprivileged. Just look at the left-wing moralizing in the above thread. The message is clear. The poor should not be allowed breed.

That said, I would allow abortion but only after you kill a kitten with a pair of scissors.
<insert profound quote here>
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RE: So what is GOP's plan for the new wave of newborns?
Quote:Abortion was always a eugenics program directed against and marketed to the underprivileged. 
No, it wasn't. It was a way for the underprivileged to be given power over themselves and their lives.


Quote:Just look at the left-wing moralizing in the above thread.
You mean stating the reality that women and men are being forced by the government sanction to remain in an undesired state. And right-wingers are the last people on earth to dare accuse anyone else of "moralizing"


Quote: The message is clear. The poor should not be allowed breed.
Nope, the message is the poor should be given a CHOICE if they WANT to BREED. 




Quote:That said, I would allow abortion but only after you kill a kitten with a pair of scissors.
Does that kitten reside within a women's body? IF not the comparison is stupid.... Dodgy

Also interesting you find the idea of a kitten being killed by scissors evil but I wonder how you feel about how the meat you eat is  raised and slaughtered. You are a vegan right ?...... Dodgy
“The sun from far gives life. But get close to it and it burns anything down to ashes”

[Image: flag-ukraine_1f1fa-1f1e6.png]  Heart [Image: canada-google.png]        

 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#30
RE: So what is GOP's plan for the new wave of newborns?
Whenever an anti-choice loon tries to guilt-trip you by comparing a fetus to an adorable animal show them this and ask them when they are converting to veganism and when they are going to demand all beef be banned.






Yes,  that warning isn't kidding.
“The sun from far gives life. But get close to it and it burns anything down to ashes”

[Image: flag-ukraine_1f1fa-1f1e6.png]  Heart [Image: canada-google.png]        

 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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