The Absurd GOP

[The Architect Of Fate]

Also why the heck should Trans People take the flak for something that overwhelmingly CIS people are going to do?

[Fake Messiah]

The photo you shared contradicts your conclusion; "It's caused by toxins." does not make it a toxin and literally the next 5 words are, "The poliovirus is a commensal virus."

It just shows that you are either a troll or a complete moron because it says "virus that is completely harmless"

The 2015 remark you quoted was specifically in regards to vaccine manufactures who had used thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative, in the past before it was prohibited in 2001.

No, his remark is that vaccines cause autism.

"I'm not going to take away anyone's vaccines. I've never been anti-vaccine. If vaccines work for somebody, I'm not going to take them away. People ought to have choice and be best informed, so I'm going to make sure the studies about safety and efficacy are out there for individuals to make choices if they are right for them." - RFK Jr (Paraphrased a bit at the end for brevity.)

He doesn't have to ban vaccines, but considering his repeated claims about vaccines being linked to autism and his involvement with Children's Health Defense, a leading anti-vaccine group, he can still make a lot of damage, like say to people that vaccines are poison.

Edited to wrap it up; I have, it's a misattribution to say that's he made that claim; rather he said, at a party, that some people believe that it targets and that there is some evidence

Yeah, you're full of shit, again.

[The Architect Of Fate]

The photo you shared contradicts your conclusion; "It's caused by toxins." does not make it a toxin and literally the next 5 words are, "The poliovirus is a commensal virus."

It just shows that you are either a troll or a complete moron because it says "virus that is completely harmless"

The 2015 remark you quoted was specifically in regards to vaccine manufactures who had used thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative, in the past before it was prohibited in 2001.

No, his remark is that vaccines cause autism.

"I'm not going to take away anyone's vaccines. I've never been anti-vaccine. If vaccines work for somebody, I'm not going to take them away. People ought to have choice and be best informed, so I'm going to make sure the studies about safety and efficacy are out there for individuals to make choices if they are right for them." - RFK Jr (Paraphrased a bit at the end for brevity.)

He doesn't have to ban vaccines, but considering his repeated claims about vaccines being linked to autism and his involvement with Children's Health Defense, a leading anti-vaccine group, he can still make a lot of damage, like say to people that vaccines are poison.

Edited to wrap it up; I have, it's a misattribution to say that's he made that claim; rather he said, at a party, that some people believe that it targets and that there is some evidence

Yeah, you're full of shit, again.

Imagine trying to pretend RFK isn't an anti vaxxer nutter the guy  agrees with Andrew Wakefield

Also Thimerosal or Ethylmercury are not dangerous and it doesn't cause autism

[Rev. Rye]

Also Thimerosal or Ethylmercury are not dangerous and it doesn't cause autism

Maybe they are, but not in the quantities put in the vaccines. For one thing, when we still used Thimerosal in vaccines (they removed it out of an abundance of caution over a decade ago), it was at about a tenth of a milligram. The lowest lethal dose in humans is 60 milligrams per kilogram of body weight. So, a newborn 8-pound baby hypothetically receiving a thimerosal-positive vaccine would be exposed to 1/2177th of the lowest possible lethal dose. Forgive me if I don't think such a low concentration is likely to cause harm.

[Rev. Rye]

And while we're on the subject of Andrew Wakefield's vaccine claims, here's a massive takedown of the whole controversy.





And here are his sources.

TL;DR: There's a VERY Good reason Andrew Wakefield's hypothesis has fuck-all in the way of support in the scientific community. And it's not because of some conspiracy. It's because, objectively, it's horseshit that falls apart under the slightest scrutiny. And somehow, the fact that nobody's been able to replicate his findings turned out to be the least of its problems.

[TheWhiteMarten]

I allege that a certain type of man is dangerous in this situation - deviants, perverts, sexual assaulters - and that giving them legal protection to insert themselves into areas where women are at a high risk is not sound policy.

Oh, so that's your problem. Well, good news: policies that allow trans women into women's bathrooms won't actually give them legal protection to sexually assault women. For one thing, sexual assault, whether or not it happens in a restroom or not, is still illegal, and "I identify as a woman, so I belong in there sexually assaulting women" is simply not a defense anyone, even the most "woke" person will entertain. 

And, frankly, your unspoken assumption that someone inclined to sexually assault women would only find a way to do so if the law allowed certain penis-bearing people to do so, is false. This is the testimony of a woman who was actually assaulted in a women's restroom by a man. And the man didn't pretend to be a woman, and they didn't have gender-neutral or trans-friendly restrooms. They just had a clearly marked women's room and a man willing to just ignore that, barge in, and fulfill his depraved desires.

My "problem" is the false dilemma that was extracted from his non sequitur. 

I never claimed they would be given legal protections to commit a crime.

That was never my unspoken assumption, that was just your presumption.

[TheWhiteMarten]

Yeah, you're full of shit, again.

Alright; find citation of the quote and tell me where it was from.

Edit - I was gonna let it slide, but scrolling up to make sure I didn't miss anything else... fuck me man, what are you on about?

It just shows that you are either a troll or a complete moron because it says "virus that is completely harmless"

The original statement was that he claimed it wasn't a virus but a toxin; I pointed out the part of the text where it explicitly calls it a virus.

[TheWhiteMarten]

Also Thimerosal or Ethylmercury are not dangerous and it doesn't cause autism

Maybe they are, but not in the quantities put in the vaccines. For one thing, when we still used Thimerosal in vaccines (they removed it out of an abundance of caution over a decade ago), it was at about a tenth of a milligram. The lowest lethal dose in humans is 60 milligrams per kilogram of body weight. So, a newborn 8-pound baby hypothetically receiving a thimerosal-positive vaccine would be exposed to 1/2177th of the lowest possible lethal dose. Forgive me if I don't think such a low concentration is likely to cause harm.

Drugs are notoriously easy to produce and dose, esp. in large-scale manufacturing settings.

[Fake Messiah]

Yeah, you're full of shit, again.

Alright; find citation of the quote and tell me where it was from.

Why? So that you can misread and/ or ignore it again?

[TheWhiteMarten]

Alright; find citation of the quote and tell me where it was from.

Why? So that you can misread and/ or ignore it again?

No; so that you can stop making an ass of yourself.