You think people who hate Queen Elizabeth 2 is same reason MAGA people hated Obama

[Woah0]

Its not so much what they did, but what they look and represented. I cant see much rational reason outside "influence is bad"

It just comes across as petty. Mainly from Americans.

But another thing. If lack of representation is the problem? Why not marry someone outside the typical English one. Problem solved. Royal admiration and modernity of being more inclusive

I've been accused of being one of those Queen Liz haters.  I dunno; I'd say it's less that I hate her, specifically, and more that I hate the idea that anyone would be born into incredible wealth and luxury just because the right person gave birth to them.  More hostility towards royalty, but also a certain amount of hostility towards many non-royals who became wealthy and powerful just because their parents were wealthy and powerful.  For example, Trump isn't a good businessman but Fred Trump was.  Likewise, Prescott Bush has a son and a grandson who both became presidents and I'm fairly confident they wouldn't have done that if not for Prescott being well connected.  I like the idea of people achieving what they achieve based on their own hard work and intelligence, not from family connections.

Hmm.. well i can see what you mean. It is better idea to be born into environment where people have each others back in a sense of helping each others out. As compared to just being born rich

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I've been accused of being one of those Queen Liz haters.  I dunno; I'd say it's less that I hate her, specifically, and more that I hate the idea that anyone would be born into incredible wealth and luxury just because the right person gave birth to them.  More hostility towards royalty, but also a certain amount of hostility towards many non-royals who became wealthy and powerful just because their parents were wealthy and powerful.  For example, Trump isn't a good businessman but Fred Trump was.  Likewise, Prescott Bush has a son and a grandson who both became presidents and I'm fairly confident they wouldn't have done that if not for Prescott being well connected.  I like the idea of people achieving what they achieve based on their own hard work and intelligence, not from family connections.

Hmm.. well i can see what you mean. It is better idea to be born into environment where people have each others back in a sense of helping each others out. As compared to just being born rich

I’m sure Lilibet wanted the same things for her subjects she had for herself - public housing, a guaranteed income, and enough palaces make the Tsar blush.

Boru

[Dundee]

Yeah, because that worked out SO well when Meghan Markle married into the Royal Family. No one has ever been more welcoming of a biracial American than that crowd of elitists.

Boru

Well i hope it can improve. But its a start isnt it

Yes, it may be a start. 

[brewer]

OGM, WTF?


totally non sequitur. 400mg of Thorazine stat!!!