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How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm...
October 11, 2022 at 12:25 am
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Just maybe... God exists and I'm going to hell?
I'm convinced he doesn't exist but I was wondering what you all have to say about this weird guilt of mine of thinking that maybe, just maybe, God exists and I'll end up in hell when I die.
I ask honestly because I wanna get rid of these superstitious bullshit in my brain.
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RE: How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm...
October 11, 2022 at 12:32 am
Relinquishing the leeching ties of indoctrination can be a challenge for some people.
It is with time that you will one day look back and wonder at how you couldn't shake it sooner.
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RE: How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm...
October 11, 2022 at 12:59 am
(October 11, 2022 at 12:25 am)Gentle_Idiot Wrote: Just maybe... God exists and I'm going to hell?
I'm convinced he doesn't exist but I was wondering what you all have to say about this weird guilt of mine of thinking that maybe, just maybe, God exists and I'll end up in hell when I die.
I ask honestly because I wanna get rid of these superstitious bullshit in my brain. If you wind up in hell then you wind up in hell. But it's better to burn due to honest disbelief than to live this brief span we call life in fear of something you don't really believe in.
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RE: How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm...
October 11, 2022 at 4:16 am
I don't worry about gods or hell for the same reason I don't worry about goblins and evil pixies, it never crosses my mind.
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RE: How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm...
October 11, 2022 at 4:45 am
You acknowledge that there is no evidence for the existence of God but not hell.
Guess what, there is absolutely no evidence that hell exists or any form of afterlife that current religions preach.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm...
October 11, 2022 at 5:53 am
(October 11, 2022 at 12:25 am)Gentle_Idiot Wrote: Just maybe... God exists and I'm going to hell?
This same question could be asked by any believer. What if medieval Catholicism is true, and with that, Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus, and with it, all Protestants are damned to eternal Hell, along with all Jews, heretics or schismatics (Russian Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox)?
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RE: How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm...
October 11, 2022 at 6:12 am
(October 11, 2022 at 5:53 am)Jehanne Wrote: (October 11, 2022 at 12:25 am)Gentle_Idiot Wrote: Just maybe... God exists and I'm going to hell?
This same question could be asked by any believer. What if medieval Catholicism is true, and with that, Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus, and with it, all Protestants are damned to eternal Hell, along with all Jews, heretics or schismatics (Russian Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox)?
Very good point. Wow.
I was a protestant before abandoning the Christian faith...
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RE: How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm...
October 11, 2022 at 6:47 am
(October 11, 2022 at 6:12 am)Gentle_Idiot Wrote: (October 11, 2022 at 5:53 am)Jehanne Wrote: This same question could be asked by any believer. What if medieval Catholicism is true, and with that, Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus, and with it, all Protestants are damned to eternal Hell, along with all Jews, heretics or schismatics (Russian Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox)?
Very good point. Wow.
I was a protestant before abandoning the Christian faith...
And, Hell has levels, too! Which means that you dropped from the Heretic level to the Apostate level. Congrats.
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RE: How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm...
October 11, 2022 at 8:14 am
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(October 11, 2022 at 12:25 am)Gentle_Idiot Wrote: Just maybe... God exists and I'm going to hell?
I'm convinced he doesn't exist but I was wondering what you all have to say about this weird guilt of mine of thinking that maybe, just maybe, God exists and I'll end up in hell when I die.
I ask honestly because I wanna get rid of these superstitious bullshit in my brain.
This god you hope exist is an Omni god, correct?
This god knows in advance, before deciding to birth you, that you will doubt it’s existence and refuses to give you or anyone definitive proof of it’s existence, right?
Still it allowed you to be birth, against your pretend FREE WILL, to a place in the world you may not have wanted to live and to parents you had no FREE WILL to choose from.
Since it’s clear you really have no free will with the god thing then why would you believe you have a choice if you’re going to heaven or hell?
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RE: How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm...
October 11, 2022 at 8:34 am
I cannot conceive of an omniscient, omnibenevolent, omnipotent, omnirighteous god who would punish someone for making an honest mistake.
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