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Why Trump will win in 2024.
RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
It’s a shame the set doesn’t include this one:

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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
It seem Trump will not win.

House democrats are planning to use their expiring majority to pass a bill before Christmas that would ban Trump from running in 2024

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/37774...amendment/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
(December 16, 2022 at 10:36 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: It seem Trump will not win.

House democrats are planning to use their expiring majority to pass a bill before Christmas that would ban Trump from running in 2024

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/37774...amendment/

We'll see how the far-right SCOTUS looks on this, because a lawsuit will certainly ensue.

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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
(December 16, 2022 at 10:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(December 16, 2022 at 10:36 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: It seem Trump will not win.

House democrats are planning to use their expiring majority to pass a bill before Christmas that would ban Trump from running in 2024

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/37774...amendment/

We'll see how the far-right SCOTUS looks on this, because a lawsuit will certainly ensue.

Not to mention a filibuster in the Senate. Not enough time is probably available, either.
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
Yeah, I'm already seeing the republican establishment starting to give Trump the Dubya treatment: They go from practically worshipping him to ignoring him to trying to convince everyone that they never supported him in the first place.

I don't know which I wish more, that the republican party would stop having to retcon themselves or that the voters would recognize the pattern and stop supporting them when they know they're going to hate their presidents after they leave office.

Anyway, Desantis scares me more than Trump. Trump is easier to manipulate and doesn't understand politics enough to get his policies enacted. Trump also has very few steadfast beliefs, political or otherwise, so it's not like he's going to push for anything especially important. And now that the general public is turning against the Roe v Wade ruling and supports same sex marriage, Trump might try to get republicans to protect those just to get the public to feed his narcissism.
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
(December 17, 2022 at 11:13 am)TaraJo Wrote: Yeah, I'm already seeing the republican establishment starting to give Trump the Dubya treatment: They go from practically worshipping him to ignoring him to trying to convince everyone that they never supported him in the first place.  

I don't know which I wish more, that the republican party would stop having to retcon themselves or that the voters would recognize the pattern and stop supporting them when they know they're going to hate their presidents after they leave office.  

Anyway, Desantis scares me more than Trump.  Trump is easier to manipulate and doesn't understand politics enough to get his policies enacted.  Trump also has very few steadfast beliefs, political or otherwise, so it's not like he's going to push for anything especially important.  And now that the general public is turning against the Roe v Wade ruling and supports same sex marriage, Trump might try to get republicans to protect those just to get the public to feed his narcissism.

Party before principles. It's the Republican way.
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
It’s not party before principles. It’s unspoken, unspeakable principles before party, and certainly before any make belief sales pitches masquerading as principles.
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
(December 17, 2022 at 11:48 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: It’s not party before principles. It’s unspoken, unspeakable principles before party, and certainly before any make belief sales pitches masquerading as principles.

The Republican Party is not monolithic. Consider the Log Cabin Republicans versus the Religious Right.
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
(December 17, 2022 at 12:30 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(December 17, 2022 at 11:48 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: It’s not party before principles.    It’s unspoken, unspeakable principles before party, and certainly before any make belief sales pitches masquerading as principles.

The Republican Party is not monolithic.  Consider the Log Cabin Republicans versus the Religious Right.

It doesn’t need to be monolithic for its behavior to be adequately predictable by a model of animation by primarily by the set of unspoken and unspeakable principles.
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
(December 17, 2022 at 12:30 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(December 17, 2022 at 11:48 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: It’s not party before principles.    It’s unspoken, unspeakable principles before party, and certainly before any make belief sales pitches masquerading as principles.

The Republican Party is not monolithic.  Consider the Log Cabin Republicans versus the Religious Right.

The log cabin republicans are the party that constantly gets rejected by the rest of the republican party.  They get booed, rejected from conventions, their talking points ignored and homophobic policies are always embraced over them.  Seems like every couple of months I read another story about the log cabin republicans saying they can't support such-and-such popular republican politician or that their leaders are supporting the democratic candidate.  

Yeah, sure, some gays will still support republicans.  Uncle Ruckus supported the confederacy, too.  Doesn't change the fact that the mainstream branch of the party harshly rejects them.
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