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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
December 19, 2022 at 6:46 pm
(December 19, 2022 at 6:15 pm)TaraJo Wrote: (December 17, 2022 at 9:14 pm)Jehanne Wrote: @TaraJo
The recently passed Respect for Marriage Act is proof that the Republican Party is changing. Look for a nationwide codification of Roe v. Wade just after the new Congress is sworn and seated.
They voted for that only after losing a midterm, losing a presidential election and vastly underperformed in another midterm. And because voting against interracial marriage would hurt them even more, especially since they’re developing a bad reputation on racial issues. And because they sacrificed a tremendous amount of political capital overturning Roe v Wade. Overturn same sex marriage right after overturning abortion rights and republicans might inspire the democrats to keep them from having any political power for the next 50 years
Take out your crystal ball -- Do you think that Roe v. Wade will be codified come mid-January?
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
December 19, 2022 at 10:12 pm
A Gallup poll just asked Trump supporters what they thought of the January 6th House Committee throwing the book at the former president.
Forty percent expressed outrage.
Sixty percent asked “What’s a book?”
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
December 19, 2022 at 10:37 pm
I believe the polity is changing faster than the Republican Party, which means that demographics will kill them before they change their minds themselves. Admittedly cynical.
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
December 19, 2022 at 10:45 pm
(December 19, 2022 at 6:46 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (December 19, 2022 at 6:15 pm)TaraJo Wrote: They voted for that only after losing a midterm, losing a presidential election and vastly underperformed in another midterm. And because voting against interracial marriage would hurt them even more, especially since they’re developing a bad reputation on racial issues. And because they sacrificed a tremendous amount of political capital overturning Roe v Wade. Overturn same sex marriage right after overturning abortion rights and republicans might inspire the democrats to keep them from having any political power for the next 50 years
Take out your crystal ball -- Do you think that Roe v. Wade will be codified come mid-January?
Doubtful. Republicans aren't willing to let that go; they know if they do they lose the support of the religious right. The moderates in the republican party are the ones who are saying that we shouldn't pass a law banning abortion nationwide (and when/if the get enough of a majority to do that, I don't doubt for a second they will).
The only way Roe v Wade gets codified is if democrats get enough of a majority in the house and the senate and they control the presidency. They can't count on any republicans supporting that; do you know any current republicans who are pro choice?
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
December 19, 2022 at 11:18 pm
A significant portion of the american electorate is lost in the sauce.
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
December 20, 2022 at 7:40 am
(December 19, 2022 at 10:45 pm)TaraJo Wrote: They can't count on any republicans supporting that; do you know any current republicans who are pro choice?
They even have their own organization:
Wikipedia -- Republican Majority for Choice
Go figure!
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
December 20, 2022 at 9:13 am
Had, you mean. Shuttered in 2018, and I can see why. Their list of notables is full of people who are very publicly anti-abortion.
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
December 20, 2022 at 10:40 am
(December 20, 2022 at 9:13 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Had, you mean. Shuttered in 2018, and I can see why. Their list of notables is full of people who are very publicly anti-abortion.
Again, 51% of the vote means 100% of the power. The Democrats need only peel off a handful of Republican votes to codify Roe v. Wade; the rest of the nuts can continue to remain nutty.
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
December 20, 2022 at 11:03 am
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We all know we can count on Susan Collins, amiright? 
Honestly, with the clerics on the court, I don't see that happening. They'll decide, as they have before, that the law is unconstitutional for reasons*. That's assuming we even get to that point, but that org shutting down and it's list of members becoming anti-abortion advocates just doesn't paint a picture of republican officials changing in the direction required for that to happen. They're all in, going the other way, at full speed. I blame Bill Clinton.
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RE: Why Trump will win in 2024.
December 20, 2022 at 12:31 pm
(December 20, 2022 at 11:03 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We all know we can count on Susan Collins, amiright?
Honestly, with the clerics on the court, I don't see that happening. They'll decide, as they have before, that the law is unconstitutional for reasons*. That's assuming we even get to that point, but that org shutting down and it's list of members becoming anti-abortion advocates just doesn't paint a picture of republican officials changing in the direction required for that to happen. They're all in, going the other way, at full speed. I blame Bill Clinton.
And, so, you think that a federal bill protecting abortion rights will be declared unconstitutional by SCOTUS?
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