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RE: Trump and Russia
February 3, 2023 at 5:51 am
(February 3, 2023 at 5:29 am)Belacqua Wrote: Trump was impeached for his actions with Ukraine.
And also for interfering with elections. Don't leave that part.
Trump's impeachment came after a formal House inquiry found that he had solicited foreign interference in the 2020 U.S. presidential election to help his re-election bid and then obstructed the inquiry itself by telling his administration officials to ignore subpoenas for documents and testimony.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impe...nald_Trump
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RE: Trump and Russia
February 3, 2023 at 6:01 am
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(February 3, 2023 at 4:34 am)Belacqua Wrote: (And please keep in mind that lawyers for MSNBC argued in court that her show has no obligation to tell the truth because no reasonable person would consider her reliable.)
That was the fox news line about tuck tuck I'm afraid, Bel. MSNBCS line, that a judge agreed with and for which OAN had to pay 250k..was that maddow offers opinions which reasonable viewers should recognize to be her opinions. Starting to look like you don't believe you have any obligation to tell the truth, though. I guess it's hard, when the truth doesn't tell the story you want to, eh?
As for OAN, I don't think they set out to be russian propaganda, it just happened as a consequence of intersectionality. A shame, since it ruined their business. Trump, meanwhile, still doing fine. Retweeting calls to revolution and rahowa on knockoff twitter of late. Still professing his enduring trust of vlad putin and hatred for the us. If he's not compromised (LOL) ..well..then it's just who he is, eh?
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RE: Trump and Russia
February 3, 2023 at 6:29 am
(This post was last modified: February 3, 2023 at 6:30 am by Belacqua.)
(February 3, 2023 at 5:51 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (February 3, 2023 at 5:29 am)Belacqua Wrote: Trump was impeached for his actions with Ukraine.
And also for interfering with elections. Don't leave that part.
Trump's impeachment came after a formal House inquiry found that he had solicited foreign interference in the 2020 U.S. presidential election to help his re-election bid and then obstructed the inquiry itself by telling his administration officials to ignore subpoenas for documents and testimony.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impe...nald_Trump
Right, he wanted Ukraine to help him influence the election. There were accusations flying around about Russian involvement, none of which was ever proved.
Quote:The Special Counsel's report, made public in April 2019, examined numerous contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials but concluded that there was insufficient evidence to bring any conspiracy or coordination charges against Trump or his associates.
Again, read the CJR report. It has the details.
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RE: Trump and Russia
February 3, 2023 at 6:35 am
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Yes, that's exactly the lie about the special counsels report that magats have been flogging ever since Bill Bar fed it to them. A good example of blatant propaganda and disinformation by a us administration. You got a problem with stuff like that, or...?
In mere reality, the senate intel committee and the special counsels report documented numerous contacts between the two and, obviously, concluded that russia engaged in a disinfo campaign along with targeted hacks of us citizens. The special counsel report itself went to pains to note that if they thought there was nothing there - they'd have said so. OFC, you can't charge a sitting pres (or, at least, this is the theory our government operates under, lol) and mueller didn't follow the money because he was told someone else was investigating that. They weren't.
Details.
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RE: Trump and Russia
February 3, 2023 at 6:43 am
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RE: Trump and Russia
February 3, 2023 at 7:31 am
Here's an older article about several instances of Russia getting blamed for things they didn't do. Again, when people are conditioned to see a Putin under every bed, they may be careless when assigning blame.
https://theintercept.com/2019/01/20/beyo...sia-story/
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RE: Trump and Russia
February 3, 2023 at 8:49 am
Somebody should tell putin that we should all stop carelessly assigning blame for putins invasion of ukraine on putin.
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RE: Trump and Russia
February 3, 2023 at 11:37 am
(February 3, 2023 at 5:29 am)Belacqua Wrote: There was no war at the time...
Wow, you are either butffuckingly ignorant or an intentional liar. Crimea and the Donbas have seen military action by Russia since 2014.
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RE: Trump and Russia
February 3, 2023 at 11:39 am
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RE: Trump and Russia
February 3, 2023 at 12:18 pm
Quote:Here's an older article about several instances of Russia getting blamed for things they didn't do. Again, when people are conditioned to see a Putin under every bed, they may be careless when assigning blame
And whose fault is that ....Oh yeah, the murderous nutcase who has made himself untrustworthy and hated.
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