Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says

[The Architect Of Fate]

And yet again, you ignored that we are humans above all.

You want to live as a Baboon as it seems, and enforce us to live as Baboons too.

She wasn't making a moral argument you idiot.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Oh!  Well Google is a search engine, it allows you to search the internet.  You can type in, "case of biological male in women's locker room transgender" and see how many cases come up.  If you do not know how to use Google then I am not surprised that you beleive these things are not happening.

It's your claim you provide the evidence and overall these instances are rare and are not an argument against letting trans people use women's spaces because CIS behave badly or a small minority of Transpeople may act badly. The solution is to punish people who act inappropriately in these spaces not punish Transpeople who want to use the facility in the way it was intended to be used.

[The Architect Of Fate]

1.  I cannot share any of our trainings with you, just as I cannot share our spotted owl nest locations with you either.  Now you can go on beleiving the trainings and the nests do not exist, but there's nothing I can do about that.  However, the fact that you did not seem to even know one of the largest government agencies even existed a couple hours ago leads me to doubt your expertise on this subject. 

So you can't actually back this claim up...

It's purely "Trust Me Bro"

2. If you ask them now, they will say they are not trans but if you asked them before the detransition they would have said yes.  Starting to seem like it is impossible to know who is really trans and who will claim to be only to detransition later on.

Detransitions are rare and their existence of them in a way invalidates Transpeople. This is a non-sequitur, And the fact at the present they present as trans is enough of a reason to respect their identity till they say otherwise or there is some reason to believe they are faking it.. So this is a weak complaint.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Depends on the behavior.  I'll denigrate and marginalize pedophiles all day long.

A Transperson is no more automatically a pedophile. Then a CIS person is.

[Angrboda]

I could, but since I haven't claimed numerous penii being seen by little girls, I have nothing to gain by doing so.  So, again, what does it have to do with anything?

You would gain some knowledge and awareness; seems worthwhile to me.

That's nice. That doesn't answer my question, however. Do you have an answer?

And I still would like to see some evidence for your position in terms of citations. Do you have any, or should we conclude that you were just fantasizing?

[The Architect Of Fate]

When was last on here people were big into free speech and science 

Free Speech has limits and science overwhelmingly backs the validity of Transpeople.

and I come back and now you're all wanting to control speech and believe men can have babies. 

Free Speech is always controlled and should always have limits like everything else. And Trans Men can most certainly have babies. 

How far you have all fallen; Hitchens would be quite disappointed in you all.   

Who the heck cares what Hitchens would think? And nope no one has fallen in fact I would say the opposite. Because the atheist community has shed its reactionary elements. Most of them went off and became Christian Conservatives. Good Riddance. 

if I want you to call me master you will do so? I'll be offended if you don't.

Nope, we don't have to do that. But nice nonsequitur.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Easy.  It should be assigned based on their biological sex and adults should not be naked around others' children. Solved.

Nope it should be assigned by gender identity and the children don't factor in.Solved

[LadyForCamus]

Homosexual behavior, in some form or another, is observed throughout the sexually reproducing animal kingdom. What, exactly, is your definition of “natural”?

There are views of professional professors who state that animals who engage in homosexual activities do it for "Sexual Gratification":

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scien...als-debate

Sexual Gratification

On the other hand, they could just be enjoying themselves, suggests Paul Vasey, animal behavior professor at the University of Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada. "They're engaging in the behavior because it's gratifying sexually or it's sexually pleasurable," he says. "They just like it. It doesn't have any sort of adaptive payoff."
Matthew Grober, biology professor at Georgia State University, agrees, saying, "If [sex] wasn't fun, we wouldn't have any kids around. So I think that maybe Japanese macaques have taken the fun aspect of sex and really run with it."

They don't need to practice homosexuality; just like cats don't need to hunt bugs but do it to have fun.

A human being who thinks shouldn't practice that act though; they should hate it and despise it even if they felt tempted to do it.

All irrelevant. You’re moving the goal posts. It’s observed throughout nature, therefore it’s natural. So, your claim that it isn’t natural is demonstrably false. What the purposes of sex should or shouldn’t be is a different discussion entirely. I expect you’ll appeal to magic book for that, in which case, I don’t give a shit.

[The Grand Nudger]

The best part in that is the bit about cats. Straight up window to the soul.

I can actually see how a person who thinks that cats don't need to hunt bugs, and who very much wants to get some homosexual action despite his hateful religious indoctrination, would arrive at opinions like these. Just like a cat, a persons compulsions to put certain things in their mouth can be out of place in their context. A warm living room for the cat, a hostile society for winter.

The "naturalness" of either isn't really in question - and we don't see winter calling cats unnatural. I think this line has more to do with the intended audience than genuine belief. Winter knows that huntings bus is as natural for a cat as his own sexuality is for him. It's just that..to some minds..calling something "unnatural" would have more play with a group like us. Theists often believe that atheists have replaced god with nature, and so, their own sexual insecurities and bigoted cultures can be laundered through the prism of psuedo darwinism.

The only real question is what we should do about the scourge of bug eating cats? Beat them? Or maybe throw them off roofs? Is there some chemical therapy we could use to correct them?

[The Architect Of Fate]

1.  I will be sure to tell them that somebody on the internet says they're wrong.

Yes you are 

2.  You have to be buzzed into the locker rooms where I work out, but if you claimed to be trans they'd buzz you into the woemn's locker room.

Yup and?

3.  What about people who detransition?  Weree they really trans and are no longer or were they never really trans?

The existence of people who detransition in no way invalidates trans people.