If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist

[Anomalocaris]

Over 700 culture telling it in no ways makes it true in any significant way, much less literally true.    Camp fire stories gets passed around, until if it had a grain of truth, that grain became largely invisible behind the bullshit accummulated by people who don;t really even have a clear understanding what facts actually  even means as a concept.

Just bear with me.

Let's say the world today experiences a pole reversal and it causes a massive global tsunami it wipes out everything, and everyone except those who had the foresight to bunker down like in the Colorado's or Norway's doomsday vault Which is essentially what the ark is (A repository of seed and I think even animal embryos.. what Noah's story does. Now lets say it takes 6000 years for humanity and the world to recover to the same point (more or less) to where the world is now. What indicators do you think would exist of us, and the flood 6000 years into our future? Would anything exist but a tale of a great flood that almost every single civilization who can be traced back to that period one way or another all have in common?

Again this is an example of the need for establishing what the evidence would in fact look like/Could possibly exist, BEFORE insisting/demanding that evidence can be only presented through a specific confirmation bias.

It is unrealistic to demand that specific evidence be provided, if none is available or could not possibly exist. which is what makes such an unreasonable demand a confirmation bias.

Meaning with in the frame work of a great global flood nothing could have survived but exactly what we have now. 700+ civilization who can trace themselves back to the point where these stories were told and they all share the common key points of this story.

……. and a partridge in a pear tree. 

the numerous bullet pointed bullshit needs but one answer:

if it is unrealistic to expect specific evidence,  then it is unrealistic to postulate it, much less assert it happened,

that’s what letting facts, as oppose to fantasy, guide you means.

[R-Farmer]

Maybe you ought look up and read the initial PBS article I referenced. It explains it all in greater detail. I posted the artisan well quote from the USGS because it simplified the whole PBS "ringwoodite/water retention thing and explains it simply to something you might relate to easier. because you did not seem to either read the material I originally referenced or you did not fully understand it. Which is why I offered the USGS article.

So, do you really need me to really connect the dots? If I do I might sound a little condescending drawing parallels between the two articles.

I'm sorry I could not post the actual link to the articles as this would have made it simpler to follow, but the 30/30 is still in effect.

i have already drawn the dots for you.  

You should also have learned all this in high school earth science class in the 8th or 9th grade if you took it within the last 40 years or so, and paid half as much attention as you might have to bible studies.    But  instead of following the dots, you are huffing and puffing.

So I don't bluff. Too close to lying. You can call it any time you like, just know I can back what I claim.

Steven Jacobsen, the Northwestern University professor who led the study, found water in subterranean ringwoodite, a deep blue mineral chemically similar to peridot, a green mineral often used in jewelry. Until a sample turned up in 2008 in a diamond coughed up from a volcano,  ringwoodite had only been found in meteorites. The ringwoodite came from the “transition zone” between the upper and lower mantle, about 400 miles below the Earth’s surface, and about 1.5% of its weight turned out to be water. If a lot of this water-heavy mineral existed underground, scientists reasoned, that might be enough to explain where Earth’s oceans came from.

So Jacobsen and his team went looking for dampness lurking deep underground by monitoring the seismic waves generated by earthquakes. Because the velocity of these waves changes depending on what kind of material they’re passing through—like, for example, if a mineral is wet or dry—measuring that speed can give geologists a map of what’s below the Earth’s surface.

Andy Coghlan, writing for NewScientists:

Sure enough, they found signs of wet ringwoodite in the transition zone 700 kilometres [400 miles] down, which divides the upper and lower regions of the mantle. At that depth, the pressures and temperatures are just right to squeeze the water out of the ringwoodite. “It’s rock with water along the boundaries between the grains, almost as if they’re sweating,” says Jacobsen.

If all the ringwoodite in the transition zone is as damp as the samples that Jacobsen and his team detected, that layer would hold three times as much water as all of the Earth’s oceans combined, reducing their share from 96.5% of all known water to a relatively paltry 24.8%. In other words, the ringwoodite discovery could quadruple the amount of water found on Earth. A blue planet, indeed.

Squeeze the water out of the ringwoodeite under great pressure.. kinda like an artesian well

[Anomalocaris]

artesian well?     you crack me up.

go back and read my post again.  or read what you quoted again, it doesn’t matter.   i told you vast majority water in the earth is not ground water.   it is chemically bounded water integral to mineral that exist under tens of thousands of atmopheres of pressure and thousands of degrees in temperature.    if they are brought to the surface in 40 days or even 40,000 years they will remain at thousands of degrees.    

Noah and his ark would not just be boiled.   they will actually turn into carbon dioxide gas with a few sprinkling of solid ash..

[R-Farmer]

the Bible is god's understanding, "other sources" would be our understanding. Why would you tell me to "lean not on my/our own understanding" and at the same time ignore God's understanding, in favor of our own understanding?

I think it sad people like you aren’t allowed to think for yourself 

Can I get an amen?

lol, brother do you truly not see your call for book chapter and verse, then switch to outside evidence when you got book chapter and verse as a form of an equal if not greater inability to think for yourself?

As you weren't able to do with anything with any of the information I provided except to try and call my bluff. Again I don't bluff.

[R-Farmer]

artesian well?     you crack me up.

go back and read my post again.  or read what you quoted again, it doesn’t matter.   i told you vast majority water in the earth is not ground water.   it is chemically bounded water integral to mineral that exist under tens of thousands of atmopheres of pressure and thousands of degrees in temperature.    if they are brought to the surface in 40 days or even 40,000 years they will remain at thousands of degrees.    

Noah and his ark would not just be boiled.   they will actually turn into carbon dioxide gas with a few sprinkling of solid ash..

read the blue printed part of the article. It literally says at the depths in the earth that this ringwoodite (Rock containing water) is, there is enough force to squeeze the water out of the rock.. Kinda LIKE how An Artesian Well works/water squeezed out of the strata.

what is funny is you are arguing with cited and referenced material from a publicly recognized source with your own person understanding of the subject. No references no citations, nothing to refute what the cited material I quoted actually says. What's more you don't seem to understand you are not challenging anything I have personally produced. but rather published/peer review works from reputable geologists. 

[The Architect Of Fate]

you are aware that over 700 cultures record a great flood and the world being saved by some sort of great ark/noah type right? When 700 hundred culture from all over the world all retain and retake a singular narrative it become more than just a camp fire story.

Couldn't have anything to do with the fact most cultures live near bodies of water and thus would experience floods couldn't have anything to do with the fact saviour myths are a common motif across pretty much every culture. No what you are providing is camp fire tales as evidence which it is not.

[Anomalocaris]

artesian well?     you crack me up.

go back and read my post again.  or read what you quoted again, it doesn’t matter.   i told you vast majority water in the earth is not ground water.   it is chemically bounded water integral to mineral that exist under tens of thousands of atmopheres of pressure and thousands of degrees in temperature.    if they are brought to the surface in 40 days or even 40,000 years they will remain at thousands of degrees.    

Noah and his ark would not just be boiled.   they will actually turn into carbon dioxide gas with a few sprinkling of solid ash..

read the blue printed part of the article. It literally says at the depths in the earth that this ringwoodite (Rock containing water) is, there is enough force to squeeze the water out of the rock.. Kinda LIKE how An Artesian Well works/water squeezed out of the strata.

what is funny is you are arguing with cited and referenced material from a publicly recognized source with your own person understanding of the subject. No references no citations, nothing to refute what the cited material I quoted actually says. What's more you don't seem to understand you are not challenging anything I have personally produced. but rather published/peer review works from reputable geologists. 

🤣

see, in reality, interrelationship between demonstrable facts and known properties of materials and forces matter,  and quoting chapter and verse does not. 

if you wasted your life reading the bible instead of learning about reality it is not my job to write you a text book in the implausible event you would suddenly see the light, so to speak, and want to catch up.

Suffice it to say look up the pressure and temperature at 700km depth.  look up the strength of available rocks and minerals at 700 kms.   see if porosity, much less an open hole to the surface, can exist.

Then look up the pressure and temperature again, look up the property it water, and see if water can continue to exist if pressure is relieved at that temperature.

Look up the temperature again.    look at the strength of chemical bonds with stuff like amino acids, you know, the actual stuff you are made from, not the biblical clay, and see whether they can continue to exist at that temperature or anywhere near a flood of substances at that temperature.

It is funny that, having made this entire thread a long lamentable exhibition of your total ignorance of all that has been discovered since the bronze age yokels wrote your bible,   you still brazenly double down on imaginative ludicrosity and yammer away instead of  cutting your losses, and stop being yet a further ambarassemrnt to your bible sprouting ignoramus kind.

[h4ym4n]

I think it sad people like you aren’t allowed to think for yourself 

Can I get an amen?

lol, brother do you truly not see your call for book chapter and verse, then switch to outside evidence when you got book chapter and verse as a form of an equal if not greater inability to think for yourself?

As you weren't able to do with anything with any of the information I provided except to try and call my bluff. Again I don't bluff.

What are you talking about?

Asking for C-V has taught you valuable lesson on how long the ark drifted. You’re welcome!

Also like I said in the very beginning, you live and die by the bible. Incapable of thinking outside of it. 

Aka, lean not on your own understanding……..



Do you believe in witches that are capable of doing evil with witchcraft?

[R-Farmer]

you are aware that over 700 cultures record a great flood and the world being saved by some sort of great ark/noah type right? When 700 hundred culture from all over the world all retain and retake a singular narrative it become more than just a camp fire story.

Couldn't have anything to do with the fact most cultures live near bodies of water and thus would experience floods couldn't have anything to do with the fact saviour myths are a common motif across pretty much every culture. No what you are providing is camp fire tales as evidence which it is not.

welcome to the conversation. Your concerns were already addressed in post 217:

Just bear with me.

Let's say the world today experiences a pole reversal and it causes a massive global tsunami it wipes out everything, and everyone except those who had the foresight to bunker down like in the Colorado's or Norway's doomsday vault Which is essentially what the ark is (A repository of seed and I think even animal embryos.. what Noah's story does. Now lets say it takes 6000 years for humanity and the world to recover to the same point (more or less) to where the world is now. What indicators do you think would exist of us, and the flood 6000 years into our future? Would anything exist but a tale of a great flood that almost every single civilization who can be traced back to that period one way or another all have in common?

Again this is an example of the need for establishing what the evidence would in fact look like/Could possibly exist, BEFORE insisting/demanding that evidence can be only presented through a specific confirmation bias.

It is unrealistic to demand that specific evidence be provided, if none is available or could not possibly exist. which is what makes such an unreasonable demand a confirmation bias.

Meaning with in the frame work of a great global flood nothing could have survived but exactly what we have now. 700+ civilization who can trace themselves back to the point where these stories were told and they all share the common key points of this story.

[Anomalocaris]

Couldn't have anything to do with the fact most cultures live near bodies of water and thus would experience floods couldn't have anything to do with the fact saviour myths are a common motif across pretty much every culture. No what you are providing is camp fire tales as evidence which it is not.

welcome to the conversation. Your concerns were already addressed in post 217:

Just bear with me.

Let's say the world today experiences a pole reversal and it causes a massive global tsunami it wipes out everything, and everyone except those who had the foresight to bunker down like in the Colorado's or Norway's doomsday vault Which is essentially what the ark is (A repository of seed and I think even animal embryos.. what Noah's story does. Now lets say it takes 6000 years for humanity and the world to recover to the same point (more or less) to where the world is now. What indicators do you think would exist of us, and the flood 6000 years into our future? Would anything exist but a tale of a great flood that almost every single civilization who can be traced back to that period one way or another all have in common?

Again this is an example of the need for establishing what the evidence would in fact look like/Could possibly exist, BEFORE insisting/demanding that evidence can be only presented through a specific confirmation bias.

It is unrealistic to demand that specific evidence be provided, if none is available or could not possibly exist. which is what makes such an unreasonable demand a confirmation bias.

Meaning with in the frame work of a great global flood nothing could have survived but exactly what we have now. 700+ civilization who can trace themselves back to the point where these stories were told and they all share the common key points of this story.

 
What evidence would there be if there were a global tsunami 6000 years ago.   Besides a tale…….


hmmmm, 

Let’s see.    distinctive and characteristic tsunami deposits at a strata associated with 6000 years ago all around the world, in a distribution on land that tells exactly how high the tsunamis were, and therefore how far in land it went,  and from the distribution of the tsunami deposits relative to the contou of the coastline, exactly where the tsunami originated? 

See,  We would bear with you if there were 2 brain cells and one piece of real knowledge in you to bear with.   Most dunces who clung to the Bible and smoked crack in science classes still retain some very vague notions of just what science can find out.   But not you, apparently.

But every time I thought you are as ignorant as a person can be, you put on yet another stellarly brazen exhibition of just how much more ignorant than that you actually are.