Earth' Recent CLimate Spiral 2.0

[Leonardo17]

[The Grand Nudger]

China having the worlds biggest navy is a perfect example of why -and how- we're failing to address climate change. They have the biggest navy made up of converted fishing trawlers, for sure. Just like our response to climate change. All show.

[Anomalocaris]

They do use a lot of armed trawlers as covert naval auxiliaries, sure, but that’s not what gave them the world’s largest navy. It is actually building the largest number of purpose built naval combatants such as submarines, destroyers, frigates, corvettes, and aircraft carriers.

Their fleet is much more heavily biased towards near shore and regional operation and depend on land based air cover, so they are no match for the US fleet in oceanic warfare, But in near shore and regional theater their fleet is no joke.

[Leonardo17]

[Leonardo17]

They do use a lot of armed trawlers as covert naval auxiliaries, sure,  but that’s not what gave them the world’s largest navy.    It is actually building the largest number of purpose built naval combatants such as submarines, destroyers, frigates, corvettes, and aircraft carriers.    

Their fleet is much more heavily biased towards near shore and regional operation and depend on land based air cover, so they are no match for the US fleet in oceanic warfare,   But in near shore and regional theater their fleet is no joke.

   This is still a terrible headache for the US + Allies if they decide to take the island of Taiwan by force.  And everyone says they are simply waiting for an opportunity (like a contested election result, a major environmental crisis, an event in some other place of the world they will divide the resources of the US navy etc.)
 
   2 days ago I was watching a short documentary on a German Steel company who, despite lower costs, cheap labor and cheap energy prices simply refused to move to China. Many EU countries are working on how to bring back as many industries as possible back to their own countries. For instance French Farmers want to restart their own almond production that has almost entirely moved to California in the last 40 years or so.
 
   I personally am not buying “made in PRC” anymore. If I can’t find a “made in Turkey” alternative, I Try to find a “made in the E.U.” or “Made in India / Malaysia / north America” alternative (in that order). I am not buying a telescope because although the trademark is American or German (Like Meade / Bresser / Celestron etc). The entire supply chain + place of production has moved to China since the 1990’s. So I’m keeping my money + I am using my old telescope instead

[Leonardo17]

[The Grand Nudger]

Cynically, I can't shake the suspicion that our institutions' new interest in climate change is based on them finally giving up trying to figure out how to profit off it. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together has long known and long been screaming that climate change is bad for business as usual.

I doubt that a new type of capitalism could arise until they figure out some way to be at the top of it..and then..how new is it, really? Like, the drapes or new, or the carpet is new?

[Anomalocaris]

There are always businesses that can profit both in the short term and long term from both the fear of climate change, and efforts to combat climate change.

Fear of climate change and combating climate change are not the same thing. Rich ignoramus who thinks they want to move from the beach front to at least where elevation is a few hundred feet above sea level out of fear for climate change is not doing anything to combat climate change, nor would climate change actually fulfill their particular phobic fears. But there are business opportunity in it,

There are also always businesses that can profit from climate change denial, both in the short run and long run. And opportunity to profit from climate change denial will don’t ie even if the worst predictions of consequences of climate change come to pass.

[Fake Messiah]

[The Grand Nudger]

I think we have different things in mind when we talk about businesses Anom. I'd call what you're talking about climate ponzis and climate pump and dumps. IE, scams. Criminal enterprises designed to take advantage of the consumer while simultaneously defrauding the investors.