Potato Diet

[h4ym4n]

The first 180 pounds come off easy if you try. It’s the last 15 that’s a bitch

[LadyForCamus]

How come when it comes to nutrition everyone just throws the value of expertise and credible sources out the window?

From what I understand, getting in shape (being normal weight) is all about not eating junk. So it is a mental fight, like staying away from booze and drugs.

There is no special diet out there, but just staying away from donuts, cakes, bacon, bread, candy, red meat, sugary drinks, pork, and pizza. And some people just can not do it.

You need to expend more energy than you take in. There’s room for all those foods in moderation while still being in a caloric deficit.

[Fake Messiah]

Sure, but one thing is to proscribe a well-balanced diet and another is how do you make someone stick to it? So it's also about coaching people.

Gwathimir has made the most important thing and that is that he decided to keep away/ moderate junk food. And that is not something that people do lightly. I think we all know people who have problems with weight but can not make themselves stick to the diet.

[LadyForCamus]

Sure, but one thing is to proscribe a well-balanced diet and another is how do you make someone stick to it? So it's also about coaching people.

Gwathimir has made the most important thing and that is that he decided to keep away/ moderate junk food. And that is not something that people do lightly. I think we all know people who have problems with weight but can not make themselves stick to the diet.

Correct, and staying away from junk food has nothing to do with potatoes.

[Fake Messiah]

Well, I agree that the potato diet is kind of brutal, but then some people have serious eating disorders. So if potatoes work for them to stop eating so much sugar then power to them. I have not been in their situation so I can't judge them.
Penn recently talked on his podcast about his two weeks potato diet and he said that it was to teach him how to eat when he is hungry, instead of just eating for fun. But then after two weeks, you have to eat some real food. And he is now a vegan.

Another approach that some heavy people have is to juice for a month and their weight disappears. But then they have to go start eating actual food and sometimes get lost.

[Gwaithmir]

Sure, but one thing is to proscribe a well-balanced diet and another is how do you make someone stick to it? So it's also about coaching people.

Gwathimir has made the most important thing and that is that he decided to keep away/ moderate junk food. And that is not something that people do lightly. I think we all know people who have problems with weight but can not make themselves stick to the diet.

Correct, and staying away from junk food has nothing to do with potatoes.

I'm trying the potato diet because I've seen videos about it on YouTube. All I can say is that it's worked okay for me, so far. To date, I've lost 18 pounds. I'll weigh myself again next Friday or Saturday.

I ate the last of my boiled Russet Potatoes yesterday. I'm cooking another batch this morning. It's a bit of a hassle without my houseboy here because I can only move about the kitchen using a cane. I have to transfer the potatoes to the stew pot, after cleaning, with only one hand. Then I have to fill the pot with water the same way. I guess, beside dieting, I'm getting a bit of exercise. 

[GrandizerII]

From what I've been told by trusted sources, weight loss is generally about making sure the ratio of gaining calories to burning them is continually less than 1. It's not really about avoiding junk food perse.

Psychologically speaking, however, how you go about maintaining that ratio is going to depend on the individual, and maybe potato diet will work for one person but not for another in achieving that goal.

[Angrboda]

There are a trillion theories about dieting beyond the ratio. Most all of which are poorly supported.

[LadyForCamus]

From what I've been told by trusted sources, weight loss is generally about making sure the ratio  of gaining calories to burning them is continually less than 1.

Psychologically speaking, however, how you go about maintaining that ratio is going to depend on the individual, and maybe potato diet will work for one person but not for another in achieving that goal.

The problem is that preservation of lean body mass is crucial for weight-loss maintenance (muscle is more metabolically active than fat tissue) as well as for overall long-term health outcomes, especially in older adults. But it’s extremely difficult to preserve lean body mass while in an energy deficit. I can’t stress enough how important adequate protein intake is during dieting and extended periods of caloric restriction. Older adults in particular need upwards of 1.5g of high biological value protein per kilo of body weight (or goal weight if the patient is obese) per day in order to prevent catabolism of LBM. That’s obviously impossible to achieve when all you’re eating five days a week is potatoes.

Edit:

In addition @Gwaithmir, you’ve got mobility issues to begin with. You can’t afford to lose any of your LBM. The more I think on this, the more I think this is extremely unwise for you, my friend. Have you ever heard of, or been assessed for sarcopenia in obesity? I strongly encourage you to sit down with a registered dietitian if you can. In my professional opinion, it was highly irresponsible of your physician to approve this diet for you based on what of your medical history that you’ve shared here with us.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/med...0mortality.

Sarcopenic obesity is a multifactorial syndrome that is characterized by the co-occurrence of obesity and sarcopenia. The pathogenic mechanisms of sarcopenia and obesity seem to be synergistically connected and increase the risk of all-cause mortality in aging populations.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2633408/

Weight gain results from the misbalance between energy intake and expenditure. Older persons tend to obtain too little proteins in their diet [83] which may impair protein muscle turnover, especially during periods of weight loss [84-86] which is often coincident with accelerated sarcopenia.

The imbalance between obesity and muscle impairment, either defined by low muscle mass or poor muscle strength is associated with important, negative health outcomes in older individuals. Recent epidemiological studies suggest that this syndrome is related to accelerated functional decline and high risk of diseases and mortality and, therefore, the identification of affected older patients should be an essential goal for clinicians.

[Angrboda]

From what I've been told by trusted sources, weight loss is generally about making sure the ratio  of gaining calories to burning them is continually less than 1.

Psychologically speaking, however, how you go about maintaining that ratio is going to depend on the individual, and maybe potato diet will work for one person but not for another in achieving that goal.

The problem is that preservation of lean body mass is crucial for weight-loss maintenance (muscle is more metabolically active than fat tissue) as well as overall long-term health, but it’s extremely difficult to preserve lean body mass during weight loss. I can’t stress enough how important adequate protein intake is during dieting and long bouts of caloric deficit. Older adults in particular need upwards of 1.5g of high biological value protein per kilo of body weight per day in order to prevent LBM catabolism. That’s pretty difficult to achieve when all you’re eating for weeks at a time is potatoes.

I believe he said he is eating normally two days per week, but don't quote me on that.