Islam owns atheism with a single verse

[Loaded dice]

Obviously, if god were just...that men seek to possess and control women - as exemplified by sexual assault and harrassment.......then that would mean he'd have to perpetuate the violence in heaven.  Eternally.

This doesn't follow technically. In heaven, there is a priori an unlimited supply of women, and men wouldn't need to resort to violence to get them. Also it doesn't seem people whom God lets into heaven will have a violent character.

Meanwhile, wives get no grapes and no penis.  Awesome.

No one is single in heaven, that's certainly true in the Islamic account of heaven. All women in heaven definitely have a male partner or husband.

[The Grand Nudger]

Judging by the contents of your magic book, allah won't let someone in unless they have a violent character. It's going to be great for all the wives - once their husbands get all the women their pervy hearts desire.

You started this thread as a death threat pitch, and look where we are now.

[Angrboda]

It definitely does imply it. A normal person with finite benevolence would create, if they could, another enjoyable life for children who died early. Certainly a benevolent God would do much more.

No, it does not. It's possible that a benevolent god would do that. It's possible it might not. It's possible it might do some other benevolent act instead. It's also possible that it can't. So it isn't necessarily the case that it would. I wouldn't be complaining about Bucky's lack of understanding of logic if this is an example of yours.

[The Grand Nudger]

That there is no afterlife might be the benevolent thing said god ensured. Maybe it knows us well enough to see how that would and could only ever become torture.

[Loaded dice]

It definitely does imply it. A normal person with finite benevolence would create, if they could, another enjoyable life for children who died early. Certainly a benevolent God would do much more.

No, it does not.  It's possible that a benevolent god would do that.  It's possible it might not.  It's possible it might do some other benevolent act instead.  It's also possible that it can't. 

Sounds like everything is possible in your silly imagination. Please grow up and don't waste our time.

That a benevolent God, as traditionally conceived, implies an afterlife, is a standard, uncontroversial assertion about theism.

"It's possible it might do some other benevolent act instead": There is nothing benevolent to be done towards a dead child, without bringing them back in some form of life first.

" It's also possible that it can't. ": God, as traditionally conceived, is omnipotent, and the idea of an afterlife a priori doesn't entail any logical contradiction, so God can actualize it.

Anything else?

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You're telling us that Muhammad never existed, you're just saying that for shock value, and because you only listen to one guy -a far right islamophobic journalist, nobody really claims this anymore, including atheists. Very few scholars of Islam dare saying that Muhammad never existed -and even these few only assert that he may have never existed, they learned to qualify their statements, unlike you. It's a minority view that has been criticized by the specialists of the field.

When your culture of islam threatens you with belief or death, what do you think is going to happen?

[The Grand Nudger]

People have believed in afterlives with no gods. Gods with no afterlives. Also, yes, afterlives and gods.

[Angrboda]

" It's also possible that it can't. ": God, as traditionally conceived, is omnipotent, and the idea of an afterlife a priori doesn't entail any logical contradiction, so God can actualize it.

Yes, that you assert this doesn't make it the case. God traditionally can't do anything that controverts his nature. His nature is necessarily mysterious to us, so you can't say what necessarily is or isn't contrary to his nature. Thank you for playing.

[Loaded dice]

People have believed in afterlives with no gods.  Gods with no afterlives.   Also, yes, afterlives and gods.

People have believed in logically contradictory statements, like the trinity. Believing in x doesn't make x plausible or even logically possible.

[Angrboda]

People have believed in afterlives with no gods.  Gods with no afterlives.   Also, yes, afterlives and gods.

People have believed in logically contradictory statements, like the trinity. Believing in x doesn't make x plausible or even logically possible.

QFT.