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Gender
#41
RE: Gender
(July 16, 2023 at 12:33 am)Lek Wrote:
(July 16, 2023 at 12:24 am)Ravenshire Wrote: Citation fucking needed!

ETA: Concern trolling!
Yeah. Get this guy out of here!  He's not allowed to have an opinion we don't like!  Go back to your same old boring topics.

As I figured. You can't provide one.
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#42
RE: Gender
You are entitled to your personal opinions, but not your personal facts, hence the demand for citations.
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#43
RE: Gender
Quote:I'll answer all your questions at once. I think it's the DNA. 
Then you are wrong 


Quote:They can act as they wish. 
And they will 


Quote:I'm sorry because I come off as cold-blooded. 
You are a bigot so you are coldblooded 



Quote:When I debate I concentrate on the facts. 
No you don't you ignore the facts 


Quote:I'm really concerned about how tough it is for people who go through this.
If you mean all the people who die because they couldn't transition. No, you don't give a damn about them if you mean the minuscule number of so-called De transitioners then no you don't care about them either they are just props you use to push your bigotry. 


Quote: I just don't think we help people by creating a lie.
It isn't a lie though you are the one pushing the lie buddy 


Quote: How about the thousands of people who want to go back and it's too late?
Detrasitioners are minuscule in number compared to those who reject not transitioning and most of both groups are caused by people like you.
"Change was inevitable"


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#44
RE: Gender
Another topic about gender?! And it is again by a professed Christian.

My stance is - why should I care? If someone wants to be a man or a woman it is their business. It doesn't bother me or anyone else.

What is concerning is why this is happening among religious people. Did your religious leaders tell you to hate this group of people? It does seem to me that the only way religion can function is if they have particular groups of people that they hate so that religion can seem useful for something and thus be protection against these hated people.

It is what I call "bogeyman politics". Something that Nazis used not only to make themselves seem useful but also to have someone to put the blame on for their incompetence (they were blaming Jews and gays even as they killed millions of them and portraying themselves as actual martyrs).

Needless to say that we see the same bogeyman politics with the MAGA movement and their incompetent Trump who portrays himself as infallible because he has groups of people to blame on.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#45
RE: Gender
Quote:When did I say I didn't love transgender people?  I'm just arguing truth.
Your every statement shows this and no you are not arguing the truth in any way 


Quote:Name me one quality, other than biological, that makes one a man?
Any nonbiological quality someone who identifies as a man says is a quality. Jesus, you are dense. 


Quote:Yeah. Get this guy out of here! He's not allowed to have an opinion we don't like! Go back to your same old boring topics.
Cry us a fucking river. You can say any stupid shit you want but don't think for a second we're not going to call you out on it. Go whine that were being meanies elsewhere snowflake.
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#46
RE: Gender
Quote:Go back to your same old boring topics.
Lol this topic with you is boring as fuck all your doing is repeating the same tired nonsense every other mindless Matt Walsh drone repeats even though it's all been refuted a billion times already  Hehe
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#47
RE: Gender
(July 15, 2023 at 10:28 pm)Lek Wrote:
(July 15, 2023 at 10:22 pm)Tomato Wrote: What many people fail to comprehend is that being either male or female is more than biology.
Name me one quality, other than biological, that makes one a man?
Not being a transphobic bigot. Transphobic bigots are pussies!
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#48
RE: Gender
(July 16, 2023 at 12:21 am)Lek Wrote: I'll answer all your questions at once. I think it's the DNA.

So chromosomes then? Are people with androgen insensitivity syndrome men then instead of women? They sure typically look like women, act like women, and identify as women. We even see them as women. Despite lacking wombs and having male sex chromosomes.

No matter which way you look at it, it's a very complex topic. Let's not pretend it's as simple as black or white. You want to talk facts, then consider all the relevant facts, not just the bits that favor your biases.

And no one is lying to trans people. Some of us just don't hastily liken their experiences to that of seeing a pink elephant and aren't ok with rudely dismissing how they feel about all this without looking at all the biopsychosocial factors involved.
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#49
RE: Gender
(July 16, 2023 at 1:58 am)GrandizerII Wrote:
(July 16, 2023 at 12:21 am)Lek Wrote: I'll answer all your questions at once. I think it's the DNA.

So chromosomes then? Are people with androgen insensitivity syndrome men then instead of women? They sure typically look like women, act like women, and identify as women. We even see them as women. Despite lacking wombs and having male sex chromosomes.

No matter which way you look at it, it's a very complex topic. Let's not pretend it's as simple as black or white. You want to talk facts, then consider all the relevant facts, not just the bits that favor your biases.

And no one is lying to trans people. Some of us just don't hastily liken their experiences to that of seeing a pink elephant and aren't ok with rudely dismissing how they feel about all this without looking at all the biopsychosocial factors involved.

You're going way over @Lek's head. You've gotta keep it at his level. 2nd grade should do, but maybe go first grade to be sure.
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#50
RE: Gender
Why do those with the smallest minds have the biggest yammering holes?

Fuck off, asshole!
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