Gender

[Ravenshire]

@Lek

According to your own book of voodoo, your gawd said:
(my bold)

If it does turn out your gawd is real, I do hope it judges you by those words which you so obviously fail to comprehend.

When did I say I didn't love transgender people?  I'm just arguing truth.

No, you're not. You have no fucking clue. Gender is so much more than just the junk between your legs.

Again, it's a you problem. Your a spiteful, willfully ignorant bigot.

[Ravenshire]

It's fascinating to me how the two things you seem to show up for are trans topics and immigration topics.

Your intolerant, bigoted ass needs to find a new place to visit.

You are an extremely icky human.

Come up with a topic and I'll discuss it with you.

The board is quite literally littered with them. Your presence has only been conspicuous in it's absence. 

[Silver]

I'm just arguing truth.

That's a bit difficult to accept. And even if it's your personal truth, I'd wonder why it has to be. Explain to us how the personal identity of others in any way affects you.

[Anomalocaris]

Elliott Page is an actor who was born a woman, possesses female equipment and DNA, and now claims to be a man. I was born as a man possessing male DNA and male equipment and also claim to be a man. What is the common thread between they and me that we share to identify as men?

You both feel more comfortable assuming the social role that, by a range of historical contingent circumstances some of which are quite disgracefully discreditable, the culture considered to be that of the men.   

I would think it is so obvious even you could not miss it.

[Anomalocaris]

What many people fail to comprehend is that being either male or female is more than biology.

Name me one quality, other than biological, that makes one a man?

The quality of not feeling threatened when someone else assume the social role they feel most comfortable with.



A quality you clearly lack, by the way.  Which makes you not a man.

[GrandizerII]

What makes you a man, Lek? Your genitals? Your sex chromosomes?

Are people with androgen insensitivity syndrome men or women? What decides the answer here? They typically look womanly on the outside, but they have male chromosomes, and they lack wombs. So maybe it all comes down to what genitals they possess, or is it maybe something to do with whether you have wombs or not?

Is it strictly to do with genitals? Then what about intersex people then, especially those who may possess both male and female genitalia?

This is a subject far more complex than what you make it out to be.

You're talking about a physical anomaly, not 99.99% of transgenders.

Would you like to have a go at answering these questions for me, considering they are very relevant to the matter of what determines one's gender?

I thought you were all about having a proper discussion.

[Lek]

I'll answer all your questions at once. I think it's the DNA. They can act as they wish. I'm sorry because I come off as cold-blooded. When I debate I concentrate on the facts. I'm really concerned about how tough it is for people who go through this. I just don't think we help people by creating a lie. How about the thousands of people who want to go back and it's too late?

[Nay_Sayer]

It would be more honest to say "I was born a woman, but always felt like a man".  That's the truth, rather than saying "I am now a man".

Maam you need to relax

[Ravenshire]

How about the thousands of people who want to go back and it's too late?

Citation fucking needed!

ETA: Concern trolling!

[Lek]

How about the thousands of people who want to go back and it's too late?

Citation fucking needed!

ETA: Concern trolling!

Yeah. Get this guy out of here! He's not allowed to have an opinion we don't like! Go back to your same old boring topics.