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Gog Magog civil war with the west
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RE: Gog Magog civil war with the west
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#32
RE: Gog Magog civil war with the west
(July 20, 2023 at 11:16 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 19, 2023 at 4:23 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: actually imperialism also made much of humanity’s progress possible.

Imperialism neither provide solutions on "the long run", nor believe in the existence of a "long run" in the first place.

Imperialism has a run at least as long as from the late neolithic or copper age to the present space and quantum electronics age. 

without imperialism we would probably have had no run at all beyond late copper/early bronze age, and those few of us who didn’t die in infancy would be living at most in some incipient, barely literate city state.

without imperialism, winter, there would be no islam.    islam is where it is today because,  until its unique deficiencies and internal contradictions caused it fall sadly behind in social organization and technology, it had been the most successful imperial social political construct in all of human history.     now that the shoe is on the other foot, modern muslims who are only sadly muslims today because of whitewashed imperial conquest by islam centuries ago, now bleats like raped sheep while forgetting how many their own creed had gleefully slashed with scimitar and trampled under hoof in its expansion out of its backwater hole in the middle of Arabian desert.
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#33
RE: Gog Magog civil war with the west
(July 20, 2023 at 12:24 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(July 20, 2023 at 11:16 am)WinterHold Wrote: Imperialism neither provide solutions on "the long run", nor believe in the existence of a "long run" in the first place.

Imperialism has a run at least as long as from the late neolithic or copper age to the present space and quantum electronics age. 

without imperialism we would probably have had no run at all beyond late copper/early bronze age, and those few of us who didn’t die in infancy would be living at most in some incipient, barely literate city state.

without imperialism, winter, there would be no islam.    islam is where it is today because,  until its unique deficiencies and internal contradictions caused it fall sadly behind in social organization and technology, it had been the most successful imperial social political construct in all of human history.     now that the shoe is on the other foot, modern muslims who are only sadly muslims today because of whitewashed imperial conquest by islam centuries ago, now bleats like raped sheep while forgetting how many their own creed had gleefully slashed with scimitar and trampled under hoof in its expansion out of its backwater hole in the middle of Arabian desert.

The Islamic nation deviated from its sacred path exactly in 656 CE in the first civil war between Muslims known as Battle of the Camel.

Right there, the Islamic nation turned into another "Empire" with Imperial laws, empires risen in the Arabian Desert and other locations (like Turkey) carrying "Islam" as a mere logo; or a "brand's name", the Islamic nation wasn't the same nation that fought with Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him; but it turned into an imperial freak just like all other imperial nations until today.

Just like all imperial empires, the Islamic empire got sick and old.

All plans by imperials in the Islamic lands fell because imperials fail to get that Islam is a celestial religion that doesn't accept to be utilized and used in the schemes of politicians.
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#34
RE: Gog Magog civil war with the west
Quote:Islam is a celestial religion that doesn't accept to be utilized and used in the schemes of politicians


And all this time I thought you had no sense of humour. Funny stuff, mate - well done!

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RE: Gog Magog civil war with the west
Strange, because islam seems to be extremely well suited to the schemes of politicians in islamic countries?

Big Mo was a warlord. Islam is a fundamentally imperial faith. One day you'll figure out how to reconcile your private faith with these two facts, I'm certain of it. When you do, I bet that'll be the end of you boring us with this gog and magog shit.
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(July 19, 2023 at 3:39 pm)WinterHold Wrote:


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Look at you, posting toys made by fuckin' Commies.

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RE: Gog Magog civil war with the west
(July 20, 2023 at 1:49 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 20, 2023 at 12:24 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Imperialism has a run at least as long as from the late neolithic or copper age to the present space and quantum electronics age. 

without imperialism we would probably have had no run at all beyond late copper/early bronze age, and those few of us who didn’t die in infancy would be living at most in some incipient, barely literate city state.

without imperialism, winter, there would be no islam.    islam is where it is today because,  until its unique deficiencies and internal contradictions caused it fall sadly behind in social organization and technology, it had been the most successful imperial social political construct in all of human history.     now that the shoe is on the other foot, modern muslims who are only sadly muslims today because of whitewashed imperial conquest by islam centuries ago, now bleats like raped sheep while forgetting how many their own creed had gleefully slashed with scimitar and trampled under hoof in its expansion out of its backwater hole in the middle of Arabian desert.

The Islamic nation deviated from its sacred path exactly in 656 CE in the first civil war between Muslims known as Battle of the Camel.

Right there, the Islamic nation turned into another "Empire" with Imperial laws, empires risen in the Arabian Desert and other locations (like Turkey) carrying "Islam" as a mere logo; or a "brand's name", the Islamic nation wasn't the same nation that fought with Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him; but it turned into an imperial freak just like all other imperial nations until today.

Just like all imperial empires, the Islamic empire got sick and old.

All plans by imperials in the Islamic lands fell because imperials fail to get that Islam is a celestial religion that doesn't accept to be utilized and used in the schemes of politicians.



yet if the “islamic nation” kept to the “sacred path” and didn’t turn into another empire, it would have burned out in its tiny shit hole and you would be one of the gog and magog today,    

So, which way do you like it be to?    

1)hypocritically and pathetically bleating about how your treasured imperial religion failed in the end to win the imperial game it had practiced with such relish in the beginning, but  in the process of practicing it early on it had made it possible for you to be a muslim today, or 

2)imperialism is bad, so true islam never practiced imperialism, in which case in all probability you, today,  would never have heard of islam and would never be a muslim, but instead you would be one of the non-believing gog and magog?

you can’t have it both ways.
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