Good exists - a Catholic comments

[GrandizerII]

And all other religious faiths are meaningless if our world occurred by accident with no creator God.

What exactly do you mean by "by accident" here? Would God exist "by accident" per your definition? If not, what is different about God just simply existing versus some ultimate atheistic universe just simply existing?

[Thumpalumpacus]

The burden of proof isn’t just mine. 

As the claimant, it actually is.

Otherwise, you'll need to prove that Santa Claus doesn't live at the North Pole, leprechauns don't guard a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, and so on. You'll also need to disprove the other four thousand or so gods you don't believe in. Better get busy, m'boy.

[Deesse23]

You don't know the basics of logic and reason.

Saying "I don't know" is the only and correct answer when,  in fact, your don't know.

Example: what number am i thinking about right now?

It doesn’t answer the question of “does God exist?”. It answers the question “Do you know if God exists?”
And if you don’t know, that’s fine. It means you don’t know the answer. 
Cheers Barry

Cheers Barry

What number am i thinking of? Is it "2" or not? Its a binary state, you know.
Answering "i dont know" does not answer the question of "do i think of the number *2*?". It answers the question "do you know if i am thinking of *2*. And if you dont know, thats fine. It means you dont know the answer.

And here is how you still dont understand the fundamental mistake you made:

2+2 =4 or not. How can the existence of God not be binary? Saying you don’t know the answer is not an answer.

Nobody ever (but maybe you) claimed that the existence of god isnt binary. But everybody (but you) understands the difference between a "binary state" and our claims of belief/knowledge about this state.

Here you messed up the fact of the existence of god (which is indeed binary) and our knowledge or belief about this purpoted fact, which is NOT binary. Saying "i dont know" about the fact/claim that a god exist (or not) is a perfectly valid answer, if you actually dont know.

"We" dont make proclamations about reality, we usually make statements of what be believe or claim to know. Its people who fell down a religious rabbit hole (like you) who proclaim  deities into existence, define them into existence etc..

[Bucky Ball]

Your own scripture denies that free will exists.

Romans 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

Sorry, no it doesn’t. You can’t have sin without free will. Nor forgiveness. Scripture is full of it. 

Cheers Barry

Actually scripture refutes you totally, Mr. Barry

(Saying "scripture is full of it", demonstrates you really don't know what you're talking about.)
You also don't have the right to interpret scripture. Only the Magisterium of your church has that authority. 
Ephesians 2:8–9 “By grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not from yourselves, so that no one may boast.”

Not so many cheers for you Mr. Barry.  You're boasting. Your gods grant faith only to some, not others. 
There is no such thing as "free will" Science has proven decisions are made before we are conscious of them". 

We know by now you only respond to what is convenient, as basically you are a dishonest debater. 
Jebus no likey when you lie.

[Bucky Ball]

And what EXACTLY have you added to this discussion ?
Oh. Exactly nothing. But you have to add your meaningless garbage as Grampa needs attention.

Thumpy doesn't like anyone who has the gall to back-talk Grampa Thump.

Hey idiot, I PROVED my point.  Here. 
Get your ass back to AD. There are a lot of people there you want to fight with. Constantly. 
Of course you know best, Gramps. 
Go fuck yourself.

Scroll up, dumbass. I stand by my critique and look forward to you giving it even more evidence.

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Ya stupid fuck

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And yet, BOTH of you FAILED to say EXACTLY what was wrong here. 
We know Grampa Thump has no expertise or education in the matter AT ALL. 
LG claims expertise, yet proved she had none. 

Sorry fucktards.
You're not going to intimidate me.

[LinuxGal]

Scripture is full of it.

I knew we would eventually find a point of agreement.

[Angrboda]

[Bucky Ball]

Pope meets with clerical sexual abuse victims, August 2023.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66391365

"A report this year concluded that at least 4,815 children had been abused in Portugal
and that the Church had sought "systematically" to conceal the issue.":

[arewethereyet]

Let us just go back to the title of this thread. We pretty much all agree that good exists.

There, we can be done now.

[Thumpalumpacus]

And yet, BOTH of you FAILED to say EXACTLY what was wrong here. 
We know Grampa Thump has no expertise or education in the matter AT ALL. 
LG claims expertise, yet proved she had none. 

Sorry fucktards.
You're not going to intimidate me.

No one's trying to intimidate you -- which is a rich charge coming from a bully such as yourself anyway. I'm not even saying you're wrong, as anyone with any basic competence in English can read.

That apparently excludes you, which is one more reason to discount your opinions.

Now this will be my last word to -- but not about -- you.