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September 23, 2023 at 3:10 pm
(September 23, 2023 at 2:52 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (September 23, 2023 at 2:44 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Oh yeah, all you gotta do is not have gay sex in life and then you can have all the gay sex you want after death..and it's gonna be sooooo good. The people who say shit like this never realize how silly it sounds. Just go blow a guy? The goal is gay sex either way.....the very moment lips hit pecker you've satisfied the win condition. Fucking weirdos.
Actually my afterlife will be 51 women in a giant jacuzzi, along with me.
That's called a self-cleaning coven.
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September 23, 2023 at 6:22 pm
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(September 23, 2023 at 2:32 pm)Ahriman Wrote: [quote pid='2170297' dateline='1695493282']
I fully acknowledge that God is a complete and utter douchebag. I only believe in Him so that my afterlife won't suck.
So you're able to turn on and off "belief" at will ?
Did you learn that somewhere ?
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October 28, 2023 at 12:22 am
(August 18, 2023 at 5:15 pm)Barry Wrote: The problem for humankind is that they don’t want to feel responsible to God, despite knowing in their hearts God exists.
What does this mean? How are people who don't believe in god irresponsible, but people who believe in god are responsible?
What is it that believers in god think that non-believers in god do that is so at the same time awful and great that they don't want to stop doing it to become responsible?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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October 28, 2023 at 12:31 am
One of my faves. I wonder how many people don't want to be responsible for god, knowing in their hearts that god doesn't exist.
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October 28, 2023 at 1:52 am
(October 28, 2023 at 12:22 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (August 18, 2023 at 5:15 pm)Barry Wrote: The problem for humankind is that they don’t want to feel responsible to God, despite knowing in their hearts God exists.
What does this mean? How are people who don't believe in god irresponsible, but people who believe in god are responsible?
What is it that believers in god think that non-believers in god do that is so at the same time awful and great that they don't want to stop doing it to become responsible? I didn’t say atheists are “irresponsible”, I said they don’t want the burden of being “responsible”. Being a believer in God actually means one knows one is “responsible” for one’s actions and decisions. I don’t believe in “once saved always saved.
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October 28, 2023 at 2:05 am
(October 28, 2023 at 1:52 am)Barry Wrote: (October 28, 2023 at 12:22 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: What does this mean? How are people who don't believe in god irresponsible, but people who believe in god are responsible?
What is it that believers in god think that non-believers in god do that is so at the same time awful and great that they don't want to stop doing it to become responsible? I didn’t say atheists are “irresponsible”, I said they don’t want the burden of being “responsible”. Being a believer in God actually means one knows one is “responsible” for one’s actions and decisions. I don’t believe in “once saved always saved.
You are either responsible for your actions and decisions, or God is doing stuff for you. Can't be both.
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October 28, 2023 at 3:24 am
(October 28, 2023 at 2:05 am)Ahriman Wrote: (October 28, 2023 at 1:52 am)Barry Wrote: I didn’t say atheists are “irresponsible”, I said they don’t want the burden of being “responsible”. Being a believer in God actually means one knows one is “responsible” for one’s actions and decisions. I don’t believe in “once saved always saved.
You are either responsible for your actions and decisions, or God is doing stuff for you. Can't be both.
Yes, you are responsible for it all. We agree. Atheists are like Moses, they are “in deNile”.
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October 28, 2023 at 3:52 am
(October 28, 2023 at 3:24 am)Barry Wrote: (October 28, 2023 at 2:05 am)Ahriman Wrote: You are either responsible for your actions and decisions, or God is doing stuff for you. Can't be both.
Yes, you are responsible for it all. We agree. Atheists are like Moses, they are “in deNile”.
If I'm responsible for everything I do, then why do I need God? If God doesn't interfere in my decision-making at all, meaning God does nothing for me, why would I pay any attention to God?
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October 28, 2023 at 4:18 am
godiboi is 100% make believe.
You have to be brain dead to accept this absolute horseshit!
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October 28, 2023 at 4:19 am
(October 28, 2023 at 1:52 am)Barry Wrote: (October 28, 2023 at 12:22 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: What does this mean? How are people who don't believe in god irresponsible, but people who believe in god are responsible?
What is it that believers in god think that non-believers in god do that is so at the same time awful and great that they don't want to stop doing it to become responsible? I didn’t say atheists are “irresponsible”, I said they don’t want the burden of being “responsible”. Being a believer in God actually means one knows one is “responsible” for one’s actions and decisions. I don’t believe in “once saved always saved.
Most of the atheists I know do accept responsibility for their actions and decisions. They show up at work, care for their families, admit their mistakes, strive to be better people, and so on.
What they don't do is to fall for the utter nuttiness that errors they make can be expiated with a sorry-my-bad plea to a figment of YOUR imagination. No need to address the error itself or the people harmed by it - just shove the responsibility off on the fictive character who delights in misery.
While Judaism is, overall, no less silly than Catholicism (or any other Christian franchise), there is one tradition they have that makes more sense than confession. For the ten days between Rosh Hashanah (the New Year) and Yom Kippur (the day of atonement), it is customary to ask forgiveness from people you may have wronged. The notion is that it is pointless and arrogant to ask God for forgiveness if you haven't done so with the people you've harmed. Christians would do well to try the same.
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