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RE: Is the suffering worth it
August 21, 2023 at 6:34 am
(August 21, 2023 at 6:26 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I can't see how agony with no respite or hope of change, like hell for example, would be preferable to annihilation. But it's subjective, so do what works.
Being masochistic helps.
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RE: Is the suffering worth it
August 21, 2023 at 6:35 am
But that would make pain pleasure to you. So dame issue applies.
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RE: Is the suffering worth it
August 21, 2023 at 6:38 am
(August 21, 2023 at 6:35 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: But that would make pain pleasure to you. So dame issue applies.
My shame and envy is off the charts. But it can't be any other way, so I just deal with it the best I can.
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RE: Is the suffering worth it
August 21, 2023 at 6:47 am
But don't you enjoy the shame and envy?
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RE: Is the suffering worth it
August 21, 2023 at 7:07 am
(August 21, 2023 at 6:55 am)h4ym4n Wrote: (August 21, 2023 at 6:22 am)Ahriman Wrote: My suffering is greater than my pleasure and I would still rather be alive. Literally anything is better than not being conscious at all.
This never made sense to me with you hard core believers in an afterlife that’s supposed to be paradise.
My suffering is greater than my pleasure and I would still rather be alive.
It’s like YOU don’t believe this afterlife bullshit.
Can you explain why you would rather suffer then experiencing bliss?
I never said I believe in an afterlife, I really don't. This life is all we have. Non-existence serves no purpose.
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RE: Is the suffering worth it
August 21, 2023 at 7:10 am
(August 21, 2023 at 6:47 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: But don't you enjoy the shame and envy?
To an extent, yes. I enjoy feeling bad. This might not ever change. I'm not sure how it could, given how used to shame and envy I've become.
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RE: Is the suffering worth it
August 21, 2023 at 7:11 am
So now imagine a situation where you had shame, envy, physical pain, and the such like, but without any of the enjoyment. Let's say we just took away your ability to gain any pleasure from anything. And let's also say there was no hope of it ever returning. At that point, death becomes preferable to neverending torment, yes?
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RE: Is the suffering worth it
August 21, 2023 at 7:15 am
I think that we have caught ourselves a queer fish here.