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Is the suffering worth it
#1
Is the suffering worth it
When you consider all the bullshit you've had to go through to get to where you are now, would you say it was all worth it? Does your present state of contentment justify all the suffering?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#2
RE: Is the suffering worth it
When people ask me about my divorce, I reccommend it.  Let me go even further.  I think that everyone should intentionally get themselves into a divorce.  Don't leave it up to chance.

How much do you really know about yourself?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#3
RE: Is the suffering worth it
Suffering is never justified.
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#4
RE: Is the suffering worth it
(August 20, 2023 at 11:39 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: When people ask me about my divorce, I reccommend it.  Let me go even further.  I think that everyone should intentionally get themselves into a divorce.  Don't leave it up to chance.

How much do you really know about yourself?

Fear is still better than shame. I know that much.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#5
RE: Is the suffering worth it
Then you don't know much, do you?

Shame is bearable. Shame is definite. Shame is informative. Fear...well....that's just running the other way when you hear a loud noise.

Your fear can be used to cause your shame. I'm guessing there's alot of shame in your life.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#6
RE: Is the suffering worth it
(August 21, 2023 at 12:32 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Then you don't know much, do you?

Shame is bearable.  Shame is definite.  Shame is informative.  Fear...well....that's just running the other way when you hear a loud noise.

Your fear can be used to cause your shame. I'm guessing there's alot of shame in your life.

Shame is enjoyable, perhaps even addictive. Fear isn't enjoyable at all. And that's what makes shame worse than fear.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#7
RE: Is the suffering worth it
Given the alternative is death, I'd say it was worth it. I prefer to live as I am than die, obviously. Though the gap is very small.
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#8
RE: Is the suffering worth it
(August 21, 2023 at 12:45 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(August 21, 2023 at 12:32 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Then you don't know much, do you?

Shame is bearable.  Shame is definite.  Shame is informative.  Fear...well....that's just running the other way when you hear a loud noise.

Your fear can be used to cause your shame. I'm guessing there's alot of shame in your life.

Shame is enjoyable, perhaps even addictive. Fear isn't enjoyable at all. And that's what makes shame worse than fear.

If you say so, degenerate. Do you find yourself afraid very often? Or ashamed...? You know....you can do something about the second thing....
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#9
RE: Is the suffering worth it
Let me see if I get this right: Shame is the worst, therefore it's the best. Jesus, talk about it.
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#10
RE: Is the suffering worth it
(August 21, 2023 at 2:11 am)MarcusA Wrote: Let me see if I get this right: Shame is the worst, therefore it's the best. Jesus, talk about it.

It's complicated. You would know if you had seen what I've seen.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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