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Every person is religious
September 4, 2023 at 12:28 am
I think every person has a religious impulse inside of them. For a lot of people, this impulse maifests as one of many known world religions. For others, such as atheists, this impulse manifests in different ways. I don't think this means every person is spiritual. It is possible to be "spiritual and religious" or "religious but not spiritual" but never "spiritual but not religious"
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RE: Every person is religious
September 4, 2023 at 12:31 am
The last thing in me wasn't a religious impulse...
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RE: Every person is religious
September 4, 2023 at 1:16 am
(September 4, 2023 at 12:28 am)Ahriman Wrote: I think every person has a religious impulse inside of them. For a lot of people, this impulse maifests as one of many known world religions. For others, such as atheists, this impulse manifests in different ways. I don't think this means every person is spiritual. It is possible to be "spiritual and religious" or "religious but not spiritual" but never "spiritual but not religious"
Yeah, and I'm King Isildur!
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RE: Every person is religious
September 4, 2023 at 1:19 am
(September 4, 2023 at 12:28 am)Ahriman Wrote: I think every person has a religious impulse inside of them. For a lot of people, this impulse maifests as one of many known world religions. For others, such as atheists, this impulse manifests in different ways. I don't think this means every person is spiritual. It is possible to be "spiritual and religious" or "religious but not spiritual" but never "spiritual but not religious"
You didn't explain how are atheists religious or why do you think atheists are religious.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Every person is religious
September 4, 2023 at 2:01 am
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(September 4, 2023 at 1:19 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (September 4, 2023 at 12:28 am)Ahriman Wrote: I think every person has a religious impulse inside of them. For a lot of people, this impulse maifests as one of many known world religions. For others, such as atheists, this impulse manifests in different ways. I don't think this means every person is spiritual. It is possible to be "spiritual and religious" or "religious but not spiritual" but never "spiritual but not religious"
You didn't explain how are atheists religious or why do you think atheists are religious.
Ideologies. An atheist’s world view can be shaped by an ideology just as much as an Abrahamist’s world view can be shaped by Islam, Judaism, or Christianity.
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RE: Every person is religious
September 4, 2023 at 2:29 am
Many people have a religious impulse.
Many people have an ideological impulse.
These sorts arrange their lives according to some symbolic system and metanarrative - whether Marxism, Christianity, aestheticism, Islam, whatever.
Many have no such impulse. They live without really caring whatsoever about such things, and without having any consistent framework or worldview.
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RE: Every person is religious
September 4, 2023 at 3:06 am
(September 4, 2023 at 12:28 am)Ahriman Wrote: I think every person has a religious impulse inside of them. For a lot of people, this impulse maifests as one of many known world religions. For others, such as atheists, this impulse manifests in different ways. I don't think this means every person is spiritual. It is possible to be "spiritual and religious" or "religious but not spiritual" but never "spiritual but not religious"
That’s very nice.
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RE: Every person is religious
September 4, 2023 at 3:15 am
(September 4, 2023 at 2:29 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Many people have a religious impulse.
Many people have an ideological impulse.
These sorts arrange their lives according to some symbolic system and metanarrative - whether Marxism, Christianity, aestheticism, Islam, whatever.
Many have no such impulse. They live without really caring whatsoever about such things, and without having any consistent framework or worldview.
Well I hate people regardless of what they believe so I guess it doesn't really matter. That's what I'm getting at.
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RE: Every person is religious
September 4, 2023 at 6:08 am
(September 4, 2023 at 12:28 am)Ahriman Wrote: I think every person has a religious impulse inside of them. For a lot of people, this impulse maifests as one of many known world religions. For others, such as atheists, this impulse manifests in different ways. I don't think this means every person is spiritual. It is possible to be "spiritual and religious" or "religious but not spiritual" but never "spiritual but not religious"
Wrong!
You’ve been brainwashed/indoctrinated to want to believe in god instead of the truth.
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RE: Every person is religious
September 4, 2023 at 6:16 am
(September 4, 2023 at 2:01 am)Ahriman Wrote: Ideologies. An atheist’s world view can be shaped by an ideology just as much as an Abrahamist’s world view can be shaped by Islam, Judaism, or Christianity.
Yeah, I don't know if everybody has a religious instinct, in the sense of metaphysical beliefs.
But I agree with you that everybody signs up for an ideology -- whether they acknowledge it or not.
Then the ideologies form into camps, with ours being better and obviously correct, and other people's being deluded and headed for some kind of demise -- either damnation or just fading away as a laughing stock as the world becomes smarter.
The in-group/out-group thing seems unavoidable.
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