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Every person is religious
RE: Every person is religious
(September 17, 2023 at 2:20 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 17, 2023 at 2:07 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: According to Sufi teaching God gave ishara to Iblis that he should not bow down and so he disobeyed, lest he commit shirk, but in his sirr he was the most loyal servant who was willing to suffer punishment in order to demonstrate pure tawhid.  That makes Iblis the best Muslim in history.

That is pretty insulting to God, painting him as a toddler who plays pranks and give secret "signs/ishara" to creatures. Thus; I don't even consider such interpretations.

And I could never worship a god who would punish a fire jinn for not bowing to a talking mudpie.
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 17, 2023 at 2:20 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 17, 2023 at 2:07 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: According to Sufi teaching God gave ishara to Iblis that he should not bow down and so he disobeyed, lest he commit shirk, but in his sirr he was the most loyal servant who was willing to suffer punishment in order to demonstrate pure tawhid.  That makes Iblis the best Muslim in history.

That is pretty insulting to God, painting him as a toddler who plays pranks and give secret "signs/ishara" to creatures. Thus; I don't even consider such interpretations.

No one gives a shit what you consider insulting to a god.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 17, 2023 at 6:38 pm)LinuxGal Wrote:
(September 17, 2023 at 2:20 pm)WinterHold Wrote: That is pretty insulting to God, painting him as a toddler who plays pranks and give secret "signs/ishara" to creatures. Thus; I don't even consider such interpretations.

And I could never worship a god who would punish a fire jinn for not bowing to a talking mudpie.

Human beings are a wonder in their own right; actually the amount of sophistication yet fragility in our bodies is baffling; is wondrous. 

Ever saw a bare CNS (Central Nervous System) ? that fragile wonder is covered by a shell that is fashioned in different color tones; producing a stream of electrical shocks organized and produced in a constant fashion; to produce a human capable of feeling, believing, thinking and even acting.

A wonder like that doesn't require bowing ?

But, our boy Satan had a different thought in his Jinn mind: he was so arrogant, so racist; the origin of racism.
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 17, 2023 at 8:08 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 17, 2023 at 6:38 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: And I could never worship a god who would punish a fire jinn for not bowing to a talking mudpie.

Human beings are a wonder in their own right; actually the amount of sophistication yet fragility in our bodies is baffling; is wondrous. 

Ever saw a bare CNS (Central Nervous System) ? that fragile wonder is covered by a shell that is fashioned in different color tones; producing a stream of electrical shocks organized and produced in a constant fashion; to produce a human capable of feeling, believing, thinking and even acting.

A wonder like that doesn't require bowing ?

But, our boy Satan had a different thought in his Jinn mind: he was so arrogant, so racist; the origin of racism.

Complete bullshit. 
There is no Saran ... just a myth from ignorants. 
Nothing is baffeling. Except to ignorants who never got a modern education.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 17, 2023 at 8:13 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(September 17, 2023 at 8:08 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Human beings are a wonder in their own right; actually the amount of sophistication yet fragility in our bodies is baffling; is wondrous. 

Ever saw a bare CNS (Central Nervous System) ? that fragile wonder is covered by a shell that is fashioned in different color tones; producing a stream of electrical shocks organized and produced in a constant fashion; to produce a human capable of feeling, believing, thinking and even acting.

A wonder like that doesn't require bowing ?

But, our boy Satan had a different thought in his Jinn mind: he was so arrogant, so racist; the origin of racism.

Complete bullshit. 
There is no Saran ... just a myth from ignorants. 
Nothing is baffeling. Except to ignorants who never got a modern education.

The humans who managed to grasp a fraction of fashioning electricity into data are all Billionaires now who own companies like IBM, INTEL, DELL...etc.

Humans have an organic processor in their brains called "the mind". Actually our conversation now is a product of the basic, outdated carbon-copy of the brain called "the computer".

God taught us how to make such fancy stuff via teaching us through thousands of years by embedding a CPU in our head since birth.
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 17, 2023 at 8:08 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 17, 2023 at 6:38 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: And I could never worship a god who would punish a fire jinn for not bowing to a talking mudpie.

Human beings are a wonder in their own right; actually the amount of sophistication yet fragility in our bodies is baffling; is wondrous. 

Ever saw a bare CNS (Central Nervous System) ? that fragile wonder is covered by a shell that is fashioned in different color tones; producing a stream of electrical shocks organized and produced in a constant fashion; to produce a human capable of feeling, believing, thinking and even acting.

A wonder like that doesn't require bowing ?

But, our boy Satan had a different thought in his Jinn mind: he was so arrogant, so racist; the origin of racism.

Every seen a case of harlequin ichthyosis? Would you bow to a Being who allowed that?

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 17, 2023 at 8:08 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 17, 2023 at 6:38 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: And I could never worship a god who would punish a fire jinn for not bowing to a talking mudpie.

Ever saw a bare CNS (Central Nervous System) ? that fragile wonder is covered by a shell that is fashioned in different color tones; producing a stream of electrical shocks organized and produced in a constant fashion; to produce a human capable of feeling, believing, thinking and even acting.

A wonder like that doesn't require bowing ?

Psalm 8

[4] What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?

[5] For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 17, 2023 at 8:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 17, 2023 at 8:13 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Complete bullshit. 
There is no Saran ... just a myth from ignorants. 
Nothing is baffeling. Except to ignorants who never got a modern education.

The humans who managed to grasp a fraction of fashioning electricity into data are all Billionaires now who own companies like IBM, INTEL, DELL...etc.

Humans have an organic processor in their brains called "the mind". Actually our conversation now is a product of the basic, outdated carbon-copy of the brain called "the computer".

God taught us how to make such fancy stuff via teaching us through thousands of years by embedding a CPU in our head since birth.

The gods taught us nothing.
LOL. There are no gods.
Such rubbish.
Grow up.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 17, 2023 at 8:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 17, 2023 at 8:13 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Complete bullshit. 
There is no Saran ... just a myth from ignorants. 
Nothing is baffeling. Except to ignorants who never got a modern education.

The humans who managed to grasp a fraction of fashioning electricity into data are all Billionaires now who own companies like IBM, INTEL, DELL...etc.

Humans have an organic processor in their brains called "the mind". Actually our conversation now is a product of the basic, outdated carbon-copy of the brain called "the computer".

God taught us how to make such fancy stuff via teaching us through thousands of years by embedding a CPU in our head since birth.

The death toll from the unprecedented flooding in northeastern Libya has risen to at least 11,300 people, the U.N. has said, with 10,100 more missing in the devastated city of Derna alone. And your gonna fucking tell me there's a god ? 
LOLOLOLOLOL
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Every person is religious
(September 17, 2023 at 9:34 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(September 17, 2023 at 8:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The humans who managed to grasp a fraction of fashioning electricity into data are all Billionaires now who own companies like IBM, INTEL, DELL...etc.

Humans have an organic processor in their brains called "the mind". Actually our conversation now is a product of the basic, outdated carbon-copy of the brain called "the computer".

God taught us how to make such fancy stuff via teaching us through thousands of years by embedding a CPU in our head since birth.

The gods taught us nothing.
LOL. There are no gods.
Such rubbish.
Grow up.

God is real. It's just that there are some people He simply doesn't care about, including you.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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