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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 4:39 pm
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2023 at 4:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Is the world run by the arab moto and we all missed it? Even in the notion of lex talionis, there's supposed to be consideration for proportionate and discriminating response. It's not a head for an eye. It's not the notion that one guy stabbing me gives me warrant to stab a third party. Or, at least, when these things happen we don't think it's our best work.
Does the arab world judge the quality of it's military actions by how much cruelty they can inflict rather than how much good judgment they display? The same question will now be asked of the israeli government, even in the context of granting an absolute right of self defense. You seem like you're well aware of this - what with bitching about the great satan for years.
-and about that arab world. They getting alot of full throated support over there in hamas at present?
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 4:51 pm
(October 9, 2023 at 4:34 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: (October 9, 2023 at 4:02 pm)WinterHold Wrote: The IDF's airstrikes were never aimed toward enemy fighters or even enemy weapons; but towards civilians !
Sure, that's why the IDF always gives 'em ten mikes to clear the building, they're trying to kill civilians. And Hamas' thousands of rockets are precision rounds that only land on military sites.
Oh, but demolishing the house of a poor family is okay ? and maybe they miss hearing the knocking on the roof ?
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 4:56 pm
(October 9, 2023 at 2:19 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: (October 9, 2023 at 12:37 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: The fact is Netanyahu's right-wing government and policies failed to keep his country safe, and totally failed to deal with the simmering eruption of violence
in Palestine. There was/is so much wrong with his policies. The re-invasion of the West Bank settlements, which were condemned by the international
communities is only one reason, what we see was inevitable, and Israel failed to deal with that. Netanyahu and all the right-wing assholes must go, now.
The Israelis have put that on a back burner for now.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67056981
Israel is still bitterly divided about Mr Netanyahu, whose government's extreme right-wing agenda prompted months of protests.
But citizens of all political persuasion are rallying behind their flag. With Israel officially at war the protests are suspended, and reservists who refused to turn up for duty are now queuing to return.
So you're saying Hamas has united the Israelis ?
Netanyahu should have anticipated that.
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 4:58 pm
https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-inte...thing-big/
Quote:Cairo official says Israel focused on West Bank instead of Gaza; Egypt’s spy chief said to warn PM of ‘terrible operation,’ Netanyahu’s office denies
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 7:10 pm
On one hand Israeli is an awful corrupt state whose military has and does commit war crimes. On the other Hamas are not heroes either. Both sides of this conflict are in the wrong.
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 7:13 pm
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2023 at 7:14 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(October 9, 2023 at 2:19 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: (October 9, 2023 at 12:37 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: The fact is Netanyahu's right-wing government and policies failed to keep his country safe, and totally failed to deal with the simmering eruption of violence
in Palestine. There was/is so much wrong with his policies. The re-invasion of the West Bank settlements, which were condemned by the international
communities is only one reason, what we see was inevitable, and Israel failed to deal with that. Netanyahu and all the right-wing assholes must go, now.
The Israelis have put that on a back burner for now.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67056981
Israel is still bitterly divided about Mr Netanyahu, whose government's extreme right-wing agenda prompted months of protests.
But citizens of all political persuasion are rallying behind their flag. With Israel officially at war the protests are suspended, and reservists who refused to turn up for duty are now queuing to return.
The question is, how long will that last ?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-inte...ething-big
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 7:18 pm
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2023 at 7:21 pm by WinterHold.)
The Zionist child killing Nazis bombing civilians.
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 7:20 pm
STOP SUPPORT FOR THIS NAZI REGIME
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 8:06 pm
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(October 9, 2023 at 4:22 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (October 9, 2023 at 4:13 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: So you're fine with murdering innocent civilians. Got it.
War is war; even America nukes civilians, even Russia burned civilians, even the British burned German civilians, the Arab moto says : "Eye for an eye, the one who started it is the cruel one".
And Israel was indeed very, very cruel. Almost Nazi, or worse.
So then why are you complaining only about the Israelis? It's a war, and as you say, war is war. By your logic, Israel is entitled to raze Gaza and evict or kill its inhabitants. The rest of us can see the immorality of that.
There's your double-standard, complaining about Israeli war-crimes, ignoring Arab war-crimes. Fuckin' hypocrite.
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RE: Palestine
October 9, 2023 at 8:13 pm
(October 9, 2023 at 7:20 pm)WinterHold Wrote: STOP SUPPORT FOR THIS NAZI REGIME
I'm not sure anyone here ever expressed support for Netanyahu or Likud. But if that's not good enough for ya then we know your anti-Zionism has veered into anti-Semitism.
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