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RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 24, 2023 at 1:55 pm
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I guess it depends on the religion, right? I mean - you say gods a dick, so a dick god with a dick religion won't make the world less dickish. Kindof a default scenario, huh?
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 24, 2023 at 2:04 pm
(October 24, 2023 at 1:55 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I guess it depends on the religion, right? I mean - you say gods a dick, so a dick god with a dick religion won't make the world less dickish. Kindof a default scenario, huh?
There’s a story (probably apocryphal) of a Maori dealing with a Christian missionary. The native explains that their gods are vengeful and need to be placated with rituals. The missionary says that’s all the more reason to convert - the god of the Christians is a good god.
The Maori laughs and says, ‘What’s the point of praying to him, then? If he’s truly good, he’s not going to do anything bad to you.’
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 24, 2023 at 2:09 pm
(October 24, 2023 at 1:36 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (October 24, 2023 at 1:04 pm)FrustratedFool Wrote: I'm interested in religion becoming obsolete. I think we'd have a better world.
The world would still suck without religion.
But would you.
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 24, 2023 at 3:56 pm
(October 24, 2023 at 1:36 pm)Ahriman Wrote: (October 24, 2023 at 1:04 pm)FrustratedFool Wrote: I'm interested in religion becoming obsolete. I think we'd have a better world.
The world would still suck without religion.
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 24, 2023 at 4:40 pm
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(October 24, 2023 at 3:41 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: What are the best methods for encouraging religious de-conversion and immunising people against religious beliefs?
Go to the pediatric ward, and see the cute little 7 year olds,
dressed as little grey mousies, their long tails dragging behind them, pushing their IV chemo poles down the hall, doing "trick and treat".
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 24, 2023 at 4:59 pm
(October 24, 2023 at 2:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 24, 2023 at 1:55 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I guess it depends on the religion, right? I mean - you say gods a dick, so a dick god with a dick religion won't make the world less dickish. Kindof a default scenario, huh?
There’s a story (probably apocryphal) of a Maori dealing with a Christian missionary. The native explains that their gods are vengeful and need to be placated with rituals. The missionary says that’s all the more reason to convert - the god of the Christians is a good god.
The Maori laughs and says, ‘What’s the point of praying to him, then? If he’s truly good, he’s not going to do anything bad to you.’
Boru
There's an entrance in a Kiwi family's bible, one of those with a family tree in it, in which a family member, a missionary, went to the East Cape in the early 1800s and disappeared.
He is listed as, "probably eaten by Maori".
THAT'S how you deal with missionaries!
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 25, 2023 at 2:21 pm
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(October 24, 2023 at 11:35 am)Ahriman Wrote: (October 24, 2023 at 4:43 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I doubt those actually work all that well.
Teaching evolution seems far more effective.
No? Teaching them evolution will just make them adopt secularism/social darwinism as their religion.
How are you defining "secularism"?
If you are defining it in most widely used definition (Secularism is the principle of seeking to conduct human affairs based on naturalistic considerations, uninvolved with religion), please tell us why that is a bad thing?
Social Darwinism is not really a thing anymore. It is highly criticized, and completely misunderstands parts of evolution, specifically, the concept of "survival of the fittest".
And, finally, neither secularism nor social Darwinism, are religions.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 25, 2023 at 2:27 pm
(October 24, 2023 at 4:59 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (October 24, 2023 at 2:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: There’s a story (probably apocryphal) of a Maori dealing with a Christian missionary. The native explains that their gods are vengeful and need to be placated with rituals. The missionary says that’s all the more reason to convert - the god of the Christians is a good god.
The Maori laughs and says, ‘What’s the point of praying to him, then? If he’s truly good, he’s not going to do anything bad to you.’
Boru
There's an entrance in a Kiwi family's bible, one of those with a family tree in it, in which a family member, a missionary, went to the East Cape in the early 1800s and disappeared.
He is listed as, "probably eaten by Maori".
THAT'S how you deal with missionaries!
I hope that wasn't in bad taste. 
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 25, 2023 at 2:50 pm
(October 25, 2023 at 2:27 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (October 24, 2023 at 4:59 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: There's an entrance in a Kiwi family's bible, one of those with a family tree in it, in which a family member, a missionary, went to the East Cape in the early 1800s and disappeared.
He is listed as, "probably eaten by Maori".
THAT'S how you deal with missionaries!
I hope that wasn't in bad taste.
I imagine eating missionaries causes serious stomach issues, yes.
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RE: Atheist Evangelism
October 25, 2023 at 2:50 pm
Correction:
The world does not suck, hoomans do!
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