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Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
#81
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
erm...
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#82
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
(November 2, 2023 at 12:23 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(November 2, 2023 at 10:52 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Drs. Dunning and Kruger called. They want their effect back.

Boru

So, do you think my Computer Architecture professor Ivan Aleksi was wrong to ask me (rather than some other student) to make the PicoBlaze Assembler and Emulator runnable in a browser, which he needed in case physical laboratory exercises are cancelled (so that students can do the laboratory exercises without having access to a real PicoBlaze)? Do you think he should have chosen some other student for that?

Answering only for myself, I think you didn't actually write a fucking thing. Sure, maybe you put down some lines of code, but when it failed, I'm betting you went online looking for others to fix it for you.

Honestly, I don't know why I even bother to respond to you any longer. I don't for one second believe you are a graduate from university. From the evidence, you seem to be a petulant teenager who would rather troll internet forums than do homework.
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#83
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
(November 3, 2023 at 6:42 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: Answering only for myself, I think you didn't actually write a fucking thing. Sure, maybe you put down some lines of code, but when it failed, I'm betting you went online looking for others to fix it for you.

Honestly, I don't know why I even bother to respond to you any longer. I don't for one second believe you are a graduate from university. From the evidence, you seem to be a petulant teenager who would rather troll internet forums than do homework.

Answering only for myself as well. He's delusional, and I don't think that conclusion is even the slightest bit of a stretch. I don't see value in engaging with delusions.
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#84
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
(November 3, 2023 at 6:55 am)LinuxGal Wrote:
(November 3, 2023 at 5:22 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: I am quite sure most 3rd-year computer engineering students wouldn't even know how to begin making an assembler runnable in a browser, for the simple reason that they don't know anything about compiler theory. They don't know what "tokenizer" or "parser" even are, much less how to make one. Not to mention they have zero experience with JavaScript.

There's these things called servers. A browser is a client.  No engineer has made an assembler run "in a browser" precisely because they're engineers. If someone told you to do it, it would be along the lines of telling a Navy boot fresh on the boat to go fetch sound powered phone batteries.

Well, I have a Bachelor degree in computer engineering, and I think that, when making web-apps, everything that can be done on the client, should be done on the client. I can think of four reasons for that:
1. You want your web-app to be usable even when the Internet connection is unstable. Had I made the assembler run on the server, the user could not assemble programs when the Internet connection breaks.
2. Complicated algorithms, such as ones found in assemblers, might contain memory leaks or infinite loops. It is much better if that happens inside a browser than on a server to make your entire website go down.
3. Suppose you get banned by your web-host for hate speech, as has happened to me once already. If the core functionality of your web-app is server-side, you need to find another web-host which supports that same programming language you used to program the back-end. If you do as much as possible client-side, then the core functionality of your web-app will remain available no matter the webhost.
4. JavaScript is the most popular programming language these days. Had I done the core of my web-app in a language other than JavaScript (and, let's face it, doing a back-end in JavaScript is a bad idea now, and will remain so in the near future), maybe I would not get contributors on GitHub.
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#85
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
You got banned for hate speech? Somehow that's less surprising than it could be.
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#86
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
(November 4, 2023 at 7:42 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(November 3, 2023 at 6:55 am)LinuxGal Wrote: There's these things called servers. A browser is a client.  No engineer has made an assembler run "in a browser" precisely because they're engineers. If someone told you to do it, it would be along the lines of telling a Navy boot fresh on the boat to go fetch sound powered phone batteries.

Well, I have a Bachelor degree in computer engineering, and I think that, when making web-apps, everything that can be done on the client, should be done on the client. I can think of four reasons for that:
1. You want your web-app to be usable even when the Internet connection is unstable. Had I made the assembler run on the server, the user could not assemble programs when the Internet connection breaks.
2. Complicated algorithms, such as ones found in assemblers, might contain memory leaks or infinite loops. It is much better if that happens inside a browser than on a server to make your entire website go down.
3. Suppose you get banned by your web-host for hate speech, as has happened to me once already. If the core functionality of your web-app is server-side, you need to find another web-host which supports that same programming language you used to program the back-end. If you do as much as possible client-side, then the core functionality of your web-app will remain available no matter the webhost.
4. JavaScript is the most popular programming language these days. Had I done the core of my web-app in a language other than JavaScript (and, let's face it, doing a back-end in JavaScript is a bad idea now, and will remain so in the near future), maybe I would not get contributors on GitHub.

Damn kids these days, everything has to be in a Gooey.

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What you do is SSH out to the server, which is typically Linux these days, code your ass off, and if you run into a problem with "infinite loops" or some such that's a you problem, not a server problem, because, permissions.
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#87
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
(November 4, 2023 at 8:22 am)Angrboda Wrote: You got banned for hate speech?  Somehow that's less surprising than it could be.

Well, yes, I got banned from 000webhost for hate speech, so I moved my site to GitHub Pages. Earlier, I also got banned from FaceBook because of denying Vukovar Massacre.
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#88
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
(November 4, 2023 at 9:42 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(November 4, 2023 at 8:22 am)Angrboda Wrote: You got banned for hate speech?  Somehow that's less surprising than it could be.

Well, yes, I got banned from 000webhost for hate speech, so I moved my site to GitHub Pages. Earlier, I also got banned from FaceBook because of denying Vukovar Massacre.

You call it the Vokovar Massacre?  Not the Vukovar Happy Fun Time ?
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#89
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
(November 4, 2023 at 11:13 am)LinuxGal Wrote:
(November 4, 2023 at 9:42 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Well, yes, I got banned from 000webhost for hate speech, so I moved my site to GitHub Pages. Earlier, I also got banned from FaceBook because of denying Vukovar Massacre.

You call it the Vokovar Massacre?  Not the Vukovar Happy Fun Time ?
When speaking Croatian, you refer to Vukovar Massacre as "Pokolj na Ovčari", literally "Slaughter on Meat-from-Sheep".
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#90
RE: Is CS a science or engineering, or maybe something else?
(November 5, 2023 at 1:17 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(November 4, 2023 at 11:13 am)LinuxGal Wrote: You call it the Vokovar Massacre?  Not the Vukovar Happy Fun Time ?
When speaking Croatian, you refer to Vukovar Massacre as "Pokolj na Ovčari", literally "Slaughter on Meat-from-Sheep".

At least we're clear you're calling it a slaughter.
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