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If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
#31
RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(1 hour ago)Deesse23 Wrote:
(2 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote: Tell me what objective morality is since I don't know  Hehe
Go and educate yourself about what objective morality us, and we can continue the conversation
Just tell what objective moral values anyone is obligated to follow without God.
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#32
RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
This person seems to enjoy the fallacy fallacy
"Change was inevitable"


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#33
RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(1 hour ago)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: This guy wants to have a conversation and make a bold statement about morality, yet he doesn’t even understand the nature of the topic he’s trying to discuss. Interesting strategy ..... Dodgy

you said nothing there
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#34
RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(2 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(3 hours ago)Deesse23 Wrote: I know, and I didn't commit one, because I made no statement.
Let's go on

Show us that you know what objective morals are. Define them, in your own words.

Would it be right to kill a baby if God told you so?
Is it ever right to disobey his commands?

Here are more, also really easy to answer:
Did your god have the capacity to order baby killing in the past?
Does he ever change?
Does he currently still posess this capacity?

You see. No statement, no fallacy, just plain questions, simple and easy to answer with yes or no.

Make Jesus proud!!!!!
Asking a question to answer a question is a tu quoque fallacy. It doesn't have to be statement. It's changing the topic. Go ask ai if I'm correct.
Nope, it isn't. I am not making any moral statements. But you should. Show us your gods objectively good morals, all of them. Make Jesus proud!
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You don't want to make Jesus proud!? Show us how objectively good your morals are: Is it the right thing if God tells you to kill a baby?
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#35
RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(1 hour ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(1 hour ago)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: This guy wants to have a conversation and make a bold statement about morality, yet he doesn’t even understand the nature of the topic he’s trying to discuss. Interesting strategy ..... Dodgy

you said nothing there
Actually, I did your free to disagree with what I said but I am certainly said something.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#36
RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(3 hours ago)Sheldon Wrote:
(Yesterday at 4:07 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: What objective standard would make anything right or wrong without God?

What objective standard would make anything right or wrong with a deity?

That's changing the topic. Answer my question. If there's no God, what objective standard can we appeal to? The moral argument is undefeated. All you can do is change the topic or offer a tu quoque fallacy or whataboutism
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#37
RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(1 hour ago)Deesse23 Wrote:
(2 hours ago)AngelThMan Wrote: Asking a question to answer a question is a tu quoque fallacy. It doesn't have to be statement. It's changing the topic. Go ask ai if I'm correct.
Nope, it isn't. I am not making any moral statements. But you should. Show us your gods objectively good morals, all of them. Make Jesus proud!
...
You don't want to make Jesus proud!? Show us how objectively good your morals are: Is it the right thing if God tells you to kill a baby?
He's totally wrong; you used no fallacies. Asking a question is completely valid, and if the subject is morality, then the topic is being adhered to as well.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#38
RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
(1 hour ago)AngelThMan Wrote:
(1 hour ago)Deesse23 Wrote: Go and educate yourself about what objective morality us, and we can continue the conversation
Just tell what objective moral values anyone is obligated to follow without God.
Why do you refuse to educate yourself about objective morals? Scared of going to lose your faith?

Was it ever ok to rip open the womb of a pregnant woman and to kill her fetus?
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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#39
RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
To date, this person has made no moral argument they have made an assertion and has engaged in the fallacy fallacy  when challenged on this fact.  
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#40
RE: If there's no God, nothing is right or wrong
Crying fallacy and repeating an assertion is not winning an argument. 
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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