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Iran is a weird fucking place...
#81
RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
Sae you cold hearted empress!
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#82
RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
(June 5, 2011 at 2:47 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Genocide is the word for "they are never coming back to bite you in the ass". I am genocidal when the times suit it (someone is incredibly weak already and I can crush them utterly with minimal losses)
So you would kill children of muslims (age 5, 8, etc.) and babies of muslims just because they are incredibly weak and you can crush them with minimal losses?

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Quote:The worst problem with bombing (e.g. nuclear bomb) that entire region is that you kill both evil men and innocent (people that would leave islam if they could, people that don't agree with terrorist acts) - and people that are also victims of the society they live in - and killing thousands of innocent children and babies.

How is that a problem? There is no such being as an 'innocent': civilians are untrained soldiers. If they are not your civilians, then it is in the interest of both you and your people to kill them if you can do so without leaving yourself wide open to attack.
Yeah, bastard baby terrorists! how could one dare say that babies or children of age 5, 6, etc. are innocent? And how dares one say that a muslim that goes to the mosque and does the stuff his religion asks him for the sole reason not to get killed, and would leave islam with the first occasion he could, cannot be counted as innocent? And how could one not see that the babies & 5 years old children are actually untrained soldiers!?

By the way Sae, how many Islamic terrorist attacks have happened in your country that you hate them, and that you act as if you would attack them of fear of not getting killed? And how many muslims have done a great evil to you in the name of their religion for you to hate them all and want them all dead?

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Quote:If you really see things that way, then you should not judge (i.e. condemn) the christians & muslims in the middle age, and muslim terrorists of today, which used and use the same methods to get rid of their enemies, because it's not fair: you're the same.

I don't condemn them for that, but I judge everyone and everything. Saladin leaves Jerusalem's christian people standing. Those who assaulted the place before usually culled the lot.
ok, if you judge everyone and everything, do you also judge yourself? just curios, or you consider yourself perfect?

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Quote:Also, let's give the following hypothesis: if most atheists in your country do a terrible thing and deserve the death penalty, how would you feel if it was decided that all atheists in your country (including you, and you are innocent) to be decapitated? Would you agree with that? If you don't, then you should understand why I don't agree with killing innocents for what evil people do.

You do realize the type of person you directed that at... yes? I follow laws to the extent they are not in my way or marginally so. The moment the lawmaker tells me I cannot do something is the moment I ignore the laws of the lawmaker. If the lawmaker shows venom to me, so do I to the lawmaker. I am entirely fine with most of the atheists in my country being decapitated, so long as I am not among them. I am fine with all of alaska's populace being annihilated, so long as I am not among them. I'd lose friends yes, and a nice legal job... but if I am not among them I can still do things, and that's huge I think.
I'm sorry Sae, I mistook you for an atheist - as I said "all atheists in your country (including you, and you are innocent) to be decapitated". But because I do not know your faith, then I must reformulate: if most people that have the faith you have would do something very evil and would deserve to receive the capital punishment, and it would be decided that all who have your faith (i.e. including you) to be killed, how would you feel about that? i.e. how would you feel to be killed for the evil of others? If it would not be ok for you to die because of what somebody else did, then why should a baby be killed for what a muslim terrorist did?
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#83
RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
Zenith Wrote:So you would kill children of muslims (age 5, 8, etc.) and babies of muslims just because they are incredibly weak and you can crush them with minimal losses?

Absolutely. It's entirely mathematical... if there is a giant gain and a minimal loss: I take it if it is worth it.

Quote:Yeah, bastard baby terrorists! how could one dare say that babies or children of age 5, 6, etc. are innocent? And how dares one say that a muslim that goes to the mosque and does the stuff his religion asks him for the sole reason not to get killed, and would leave islam with the first occasion he could, cannot be counted as innocent? And how could one not see that the babies & 5 years old children are actually untrained soldiers!?

One could say they are innocent because of what they are today... but a cuddly baby bear will still be a bear. We probably can't change that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peUFIfD-uYM

No matter who they are, they remain capable under the right circumstances of being a problem for me. The only way one cannot see that babies and 5 year olds are untrained soldiers is if they are either in denial, or simply not pragmatic people that shouldn't be making decisions over who is and is not a threat anyway.

Quote:By the way Sae, how many Islamic terrorist attacks have happened in your country that you hate them, and that you act as if you would attack them of fear of not getting killed? And how many muslims have done a great evil to you in the name of their religion for you to hate them all and want them all dead?

You presume that I hate them. An enemy is not someone I hate... but someone who is either in my way or who would cause me harm if given the chance.

Infact, i want everyone that is not my friend dead. If I had a button and could get this to happen: I would immediately press it, with little to no hesitation. Sure... they might have become my friend at a later time... but why take the chance? Heart

Quote:ok, if you judge everyone and everything, do you also judge yourself? just curios, or you consider yourself perfect?

I judge myself the most critically. Depressive introspection has a way of devaluing self-worth to levels better left occupied by one's friends.

And I cannot be perfect until I am at least post-op... until then I'm lacking so much that to even call myself half decent is a stretch for me Heart

Quote:I'm sorry Sae, I mistook you for an atheist - as I said "all atheists in your country (including you, and you are innocent) to be decapitated". But because I do not know your faith, then I must reformulate: if most people that have the faith you have would do something very evil and would deserve to receive the capital punishment, and it would be decided that all who have your faith (i.e. including you) to be killed, how would you feel about that? i.e. how would you feel to be killed for the evil of others? If it would not be ok for you to die because of what somebody else did, then why should a baby be killed for what a muslim terrorist did?

I am an atheist Tiger

And my answer remains the same: I am chaotic. There is no semblance of following rules to be found here... nor is there a care in the world for the responsibilities others have placed upon me. If I do something, it is because at the time I either wanted to or deemed it necessary. I'm a terrible self-motivator.

I would feel it was somewhat barbaric, as most killing is... but I wouldn't allow myself to be held in the clutches of the lawgiver. I would infact commit suicide before being placed in that situation. The situation cannot apply to me at all, as I could not be killed by the lawgiver in the sort of formal and ordered manner which they are so fond of.
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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#84
RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
Sae, you can't be serious.

Even your friends can potentially become your enemies. As such, you would kill everyone but yourself because everyone else is a potential enemy. Which is nonsense.

Modern societies have something called the "presumption of innocence". Innocent until proven guilty. After all, by your logic, you potentially COULD become the next Hitler. As such you should be killed too.

I'm pretty sure you are too smart for that kind of thinking so ima just say: i call trolling Tongue


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#85
RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
You never know. The Galactic Empress might really be serious, afterall.

This might help you to understand:

Galactic Empress Wrote:409903: Failure to compliment the Galactic Empress's power will result in the seizure of you, your family, your home, your crops, your city, and your planet (which will then all be mine, to toy with as I please). You can keep your stepmother.

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#86
RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
(June 6, 2011 at 7:02 am)Rwandrall Wrote: Sae, you can't be serious.

Even your friends can potentially become your enemies. As such, you would kill everyone but yourself because everyone else is a potential enemy. Which is nonsense.

It is true, and were I careful I would. However: I simply like my friends too much to kill them as a result of what they might become. I am reckless with friends, and that has come back to bite me in the ass more than I care to remark of.

Quote:Modern societies have something called the "presumption of innocence". Innocent until proven guilty. After all, by your logic, you potentially COULD become the next Hitler. As such you should be killed too.

I have no problem with me being "the next Hitler" (you better believe I would kill a lot more people less discriminately than he). Human societies have this presumption in this century... but the Silicoid do not care.

Quote:I'm pretty sure you are too smart for that kind of thinking so ima just say: i call trolling Tongue

Too smart? Me? Heart

I'm smart! Heart
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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#87
RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
(June 6, 2011 at 1:44 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: It is true, and were I careful I would. However: I simply like my friends too much to kill them as a result of what they might become. I am reckless with friends, and that has come back to bite me in the ass more than I care to remark of.

Well now that is just hypocritical Tongue

(June 6, 2011 at 1:44 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: I have no problem with me being "the next Hitler" (you better believe I would kill a lot more people less discriminately than he). Human societies have this presumption in this century... but the Silicoid do not care.

Everyone uses the presumption of innocence, in every context, even animals dont kill without good reason to. But it's just a moral code, do unto others and all that. I guess you have no obligation to follow that code, however your way of thinking is unsustainable for a society to function, so yeah, good luck Big Grin


I'm torn now...on the one hand this is kindda disturbing...on the other i believe a fan of both Rift AND Dragon Age simply can't be all that bad Tongue
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#88
RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
Rwandrall Wrote:Well now that is just hypocritical

Indeed. Another somewhat 'hypocritical' thing about me is that I cannot stand the taste of milk, but I like cheese.

Quote:Everyone uses the presumption of innocence, in every context, even animals dont kill without good reason to. But it's just a moral code, do unto others and all that. I guess you have no obligation to follow that code, however your way of thinking is unsustainable for a society to function, so yeah, good luck

Did you know that the government has a quota that it forces its people to meet? They don't care to fuck each other or anything. The Silicoid, really and truly, do not care. About anything.

Every one of their worlds is an intoxicated, radiated, polluted wasteland. Other governments have been known to send us their trash as we really couldn't care less. The leaders of the silicoid (ie: me, the empress) are the only ones that care about anything. And even we couldn't be bothered to care about others's morality and the pollution/toxins/radiation/waste.

Quote:I'm torn now...on the one hand this is kindda disturbing...on the other i believe a fan of both Rift AND Dragon Age simply can't be all that bad

Heart

I'm still a lovely person even though I could see myself butchering the entire world Heart
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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#89
RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
(June 7, 2011 at 2:00 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: I'm still a lovely person even though I could see myself butchering the entire world Heart

ROFLOL



btw, just curios... are you a misanthrope too?
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#90
RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
(June 8, 2011 at 3:20 pm)Zenith Wrote:
(June 7, 2011 at 2:00 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: I'm still a lovely person even though I could see myself butchering the entire world Heart

ROFLOL

btw, just curios... are you a misanthrope too?

Humans are my third favorite, actually.

Only because of sex. Otherwise they are... well... we would have annihilated them and repurposed Sol III 2 centuries ago.
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