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RE: Poor uneducated unintelligent aheists
May 16, 2011 at 8:48 am
(May 15, 2011 at 9:19 pm)Ashendant Wrote: (May 15, 2011 at 9:09 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: I'm not bisexual, not even a little.
Only about 5% can truly say they are either straight or gay the rest is in shades in between
Based on what research?
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RE: Poor uneducated unintelligent aheists
May 16, 2011 at 8:59 am
Peace....
Quote:You worship one more god than I do. You are atheistic about one less god than I am. Either way, you still don't have a grasp on reality. Asgard is as real as your Heaven, i.e., not at all.
You can't just dust off old arguments and post them like they will apply to everyone. I believe in the God of the Torah, The Gospel, The Qur'an, The Sabians, The Magians, The people of Ancient Egypt, The One God of the Rapa Nui, et al.....All of these traditions originate upon the same point. I believe in One God, you believe in nothing...We are not close in position...
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RE: Poor uneducated unintelligent aheists
May 16, 2011 at 9:28 am
Including Zeus and the Flying Spaghetti Monster? wow... shoot.. you can start worshipping me too thanks....
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RE: Poor uneducated unintelligent aheists
May 16, 2011 at 9:47 am
(May 15, 2011 at 4:05 pm)Whirling Moat Wrote: Yeah..because Asgard doesn't exist. But the Universe exists and requires a Creator in order to make sense.
In order to make sense to you perhaps.
Is that not supremely arrogant to assume that if you personally cannot imagine or understand a premise then nature/reality itself cannot have realised it?
As Carl Sagan said, "The Universe does not have to conform to your expectations of it!"
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RE: Poor uneducated unintelligent aheists
May 16, 2011 at 9:55 am
(May 16, 2011 at 8:59 am)Whirling Moat Wrote: Peace....
Quote:You worship one more god than I do. You are atheistic about one less god than I am. Either way, you still don't have a grasp on reality. Asgard is as real as your Heaven, i.e., not at all.
You can't just dust off old arguments and post them like they will apply to everyone. I believe in the God of the Torah, The Gospel, The Qur'an, The Sabians, The Magians, The people of Ancient Egypt, The One God of the Rapa Nui, et al.....All of these traditions originate upon the same point. I believe in One God, you believe in nothing...We are not close in position...
Whirling Moat
So you're crazier than I thought.
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RE: Poor uneducated unintelligent aheists
May 16, 2011 at 10:56 am
(May 16, 2011 at 6:31 am)Eudaimonia Wrote: I do not know of any major traditions that routinely ask atheistic questions of their faith, at least it is not part of the culture...
I can't process this sentence. What is an atheistic question? "Hey did you remember to buy the milk?" he said to his wife. Yep, that was a seculual question.
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RE: Poor uneducated unintelligent aheists
May 16, 2011 at 11:07 am
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2011 at 11:13 am by Eudaimonia.)
(May 16, 2011 at 10:56 am)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: (May 16, 2011 at 6:31 am)Eudaimonia Wrote: I do not know of any major traditions that routinely ask atheistic questions of their faith, at least it is not part of the culture...
I can't process this sentence. What is an atheitic question? "Hey did you remember to buy the milk?" he said to his wife. Yep, that was a seculual question.
Hard, critical (usually uncomfortable to a believer questions) normally asked by nonbelievers.. Such as - By what evidence or reason should I accept the claims of ancient tribal desert dwellers to govern my moral sensibilities? These are not the sort of questions that most people who have faith ask.. My experience is that usually their "critical" questions are tempered by the longing for an answer that allows them to retain their belief... They are usually seeking a way to rectify the disparity.. rather than critically analyze sans bias or need coloring the query...
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RE: Poor uneducated unintelligent aheists
May 16, 2011 at 11:26 am
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RE: Poor uneducated unintelligent aheists
May 16, 2011 at 11:29 am
Quote:Ahh, that makes sense when you use the word critical. Atheistic just means not pertaining to God. You don't need to be critical at all to be atheist, so it is best not to conflate the two. Guess what; theists think atheists just need to think critically so they can realize the truth of God. 
Point taken..
Well then perhaps critical is not the best word to describe what I meant.. Perhaps "skeptic"...? I think anyone who disbelieves would be skeptical of claims of faith and would query from that position.. It would be hard to query yourself with the mind of a skeptic in an objective manner if you believe or want to believe..
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RE: Poor uneducated unintelligent aheists
May 16, 2011 at 11:47 am
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