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Who Kills More, Religion or Atheism?
June 24, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Found a interesting article, some of the information presented in the article is wrong (Hitler being atheist). Who do you think kills more?
My opinion - Religion.
Religion is like a Penis, you shouldn't whip it out in public and you shouldn't shove it down your child's throat.
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RE: Who Kills More, Religion or Atheism?
June 24, 2011 at 10:55 pm
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If all the scholarship in the article is of that nature I think you can safely drop it down a toilet.
Quote:“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”
( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 65. )
That would make him one shitty atheist!
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RE: Who Kills More, Religion or Atheism?
June 24, 2011 at 11:03 pm
(June 24, 2011 at 10:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If all the scholarship in the article is of that nature I think you can safely drop it down a toilet.
Quote:“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”
( Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Ralph Mannheim, ed., New York: Mariner Books, 1999, p. 65. )
That would make him one shitty atheist!
Lol i was chatting on facebook and forgot to put the link down. My bad? http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4076
But since im still chatting ill wait to make a big response to it.
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RE: Who Kills More, Religion or Atheism?
June 24, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Use this when you do.
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RE: Who Kills More, Religion or Atheism?
June 25, 2011 at 12:12 am
The Article Wrote:Religion does not cause you to kill people, and it certainly doesn't prevent you from killing people. Let's stop pretending that it does either.
It doesn't cause you to kill people? hmm, what about all those commands in the Bible and Koran ordering the religious to kill people?
Wow, must have read those books wrong, several times. Weird.
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RE: Who Kills More, Religion or Atheism?
June 25, 2011 at 1:02 am
Crusades, Witch hunts, Islamic Jihads, Buddist Burma, Aztec Sacrifices, ETC, all commited in the name of religion.
Quote:"I think it's perfectly possible to explain how the universe came about without bringing God into it, but I don't know everything, and there may well be a God somewhere, hiding away. Actually, if he is keeping out of sight, it's because he's ashamed of his followers and all the cruelty and ignorance they're responsible for promoting in his name. If I were him, I'd want nothing to do with them."
— Philip Pullman
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RE: Who Kills More, Religion or Atheism?
June 25, 2011 at 5:37 am
Apologists for such will argue that "people are the cause", "someone hijacked it", etc,.
They often like to neglect the fact that they use religion to manipulate others towards favored and popular political causes, as if bastardizing it by any other name would be just as nice.
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RE: Who Kills More, Religion or Atheism?
June 25, 2011 at 7:40 am
There is the argument that has been nagging me, about regimes like Mao's and Stalin's, that got rid of religion, and that opened a vacuum that was filled with a new religion, with the Dear Leader as its focus, that ended up in way more damage than what religion usually does.
In that way, religions like christianity can be seen as a shield to protect the masses from even more dangerous religions. But to be fair, if that's the goal, they are doing a shitty job at it.
I wonder if those "state religions" can be considered religions...
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RE: Who Kills More, Religion or Atheism?
June 25, 2011 at 7:44 am
Atheists have killed lots of people, but I have yet to hear of anyone killing in the name of atheism. Religion cannot make the same claim.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Who Kills More, Religion or Atheism?
June 25, 2011 at 8:04 am
Mmm...Many, many priests were killed by Stalinists and Maoists, in the name of atheism, in the name of getting rid of religion, in the specter of communism...
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